Posts by Roddy

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Elder's visit

by brooklynNY in

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i haven?t posted much in the past.

however, i enjoy reading the many topics.. i would like your thoughts regarding the following:.

after no contact with anyone in my former congregation (aside from being shunning) for the last eight years, i walk into work this morning and check my voice mail to find i have a message from one of the elders.

Roddy

Take just as long to reply to their 'invitation'. Then say, "thanks but no thanks".

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Need help to blow-off the elders

by Roddy in

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i guess i've been away too long, the local circuit overseer is coming, or the local circuit overseer has come by already and got on the elders' backs.

i got word from a relative that the elders would like to meet with me for a shepherding call.

i guess to 'help' me go back to the meetings.. i need adivce on how to blow them off for the year.

Roddy

Highlandyr, that's news to me. They can't DF you as per their public website? Please let me know where that is. I'll keep it as my trump card - just in case. Nice to have something they know but will not let on that that fact is there.

You're correct. I don't want to leave the JWs. Or to be more precise, I don't want the JW rule makers slander me as "unclean" because of their petty self-importance. And cut me off from my family just because I don't want to follow the JW program anymore. If they can content themselves to leaving me alone as I've left them alone, then the watchtower and I will get along just fine. In my humble opinion, I'm a more honest and loving person now than I was a JW.

I've given my heart and soul to this organization and in the end they've torn at it and finally broken it. While I have regrets for being a blind watchtower slave for so long and for believing so much, I blame my own stupidity. I'm moving forward. I'm healing. I'm not about burning bridges. However I'm not looking back. Enough said.

Thanks all!

Wish me luck!

Rod

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Need help to blow-off the elders

by Roddy in

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friends

i guess i've been away too long, the local circuit overseer is coming, or the local circuit overseer has come by already and got on the elders' backs.

i got word from a relative that the elders would like to meet with me for a shepherding call.

i guess to 'help' me go back to the meetings.. i need adivce on how to blow them off for the year.

Roddy

I want to thank ALL OF YOU for the great advices. I see good merit in all of them - from light to moderate. I got somethings to go with and I'll start practicing on things to do, prepare for, and have alternative strategies. I just was lost as to what to do and how to handle this. I think I'll make a street pioneer at a train station a little happy and get some of the latest mags just to be a little fresh on them, just in case.

I really like the parts about lieing to them, acting, and killing them with kindness. They have lied, held back information, and put on acts on me. It will be great to use Theocratic War Strategy back on them. What's the purpose for Theocratic War Strategy anyway? Something about witholding the truth to those who don't deserve it? Or something like that. I think it can work both ways, right?

Little Witch, I think you hit it on the head. The Memorial is coming. But I think it could be the CO too. So it is a combination of both. As I recall the CO comes visiting around Spring and Autumn.

Well, I plan to be kind, non controversial, and very smiley.

If all else fails, I like the broken record routine.

Yes, I thought about being sick and stuff like that but maybe I should get it over with rather than live with the shadow over my head that they make come by when I least expect them. At least with the shepherding call I know when they are coming. But, who, knows? I just may stall them just a couple of times just for fun.

I'm starting to feel better about this.

What do any of you think in my giving them the line that I'm sad and depressed. Would that make them leave me alone as they can't handle physcological issues. Or would that backfire and cause them to be "motherly" and try to visit with me some more?

I like that Fred Hall picture! I needed that joke.

Thanks everyone!

If there are more ideas, keep them coming.

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Need help to blow-off the elders

by Roddy in

jw
friends

i guess i've been away too long, the local circuit overseer is coming, or the local circuit overseer has come by already and got on the elders' backs.

i got word from a relative that the elders would like to meet with me for a shepherding call.

i guess to 'help' me go back to the meetings.. i need adivce on how to blow them off for the year.

Roddy

Hi

I guess I've been away too long, the local circuit overseer is coming, or the local circuit overseer has come by already and got on the elders' backs. I got word from a relative that the elders would like to meet with me for a shepherding call. I guess to 'help' me go back to the meetings.

I need adivce on how to blow them off for the year. I don't want to leave the JWs because I don't want to separate from my family and relatives that still go there. If I can't blow them off, then how can I satisfy them for a year so they can write on their report card that they did their thing and that I'm not a troublemaker - which I'm not. I'm more of a drop-out rather than an exit-with-style or exit-with-fireworks kind of guy. I was just sick and tired of all the stuff, lies, and make-believe.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Thank you

Rod

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-26-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 10-26-03 wt study

wt quotes will be in

he wrote: "whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things.

Roddy

Thanks everyone for your replies.

I think I read in one of Franz' books, I don't remember which one, where somewhere in the WT Society there was an unofficial kind of book where all their beliefs and teachings were cataloged and organized. It was just an internal way of keeping all their teachings straight - or straighter. But I think the story goes that when Knorr found out it that he had it destroyed. Now that the Old Guard are losing their memories and probably too old to do anything, I guess their teachings are best based on whatever the WT officially wrote in the magazines the last time, plus whatever anyone remembers.

Other organized religions have their articles of faith which everyone can read and understand up front. With JWs its all dependant on whatever came out at the last summer convention, or watchtower, whichever came lastest. I believed that it was just "new light". But I was fooled. The Bible is timeless.

Sometimes I think they just like to constantly keep spinning in order to keep their presses going. What other reason could there be???

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-26-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 10-26-03 wt study

wt quotes will be in

he wrote: "whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things.

Roddy

This is very interesting, Blondie. Good research.

I'm curious about one thing. Why is it that they keep regurgintating (sp?) material from past issues? Doesn't anyone at the Watchtower write original articles anymore? Did something happen to their writing committee?

I'm just wondering.

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Movies JW style

by VeniceIT in

a friend and i were chatting tonight and he got on the subject of jw movie themes.

what if wts took over the film industry, what kind of movies would we see (using previous movie titles.

) it was entertaining and i knew you guys could come up with some good ones.. ted jarez and the chamber of secrets.

Roddy

Oops! I meant ...

Sister Debbie does Dallas, ... and Denver, ... and Detroit, ...

But you get the idea!

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Movies JW style

by VeniceIT in

a friend and i were chatting tonight and he got on the subject of jw movie themes.

what if wts took over the film industry, what kind of movies would we see (using previous movie titles.

) it was entertaining and i knew you guys could come up with some good ones.. ted jarez and the chamber of secrets.

Roddy

All of these are good!!! LOL!! I thought of a few. I hope yall find them funny.

The Time Bandits

Out of Bethel

Witnesses

Memorial in Connecticuit

What a Sister Wants

Debbie does Dallas, ... and Denver, ... and Detroit, ... LOL!!!!!!

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Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

by Jourles in

i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

Roddy

>>In summary, I think as J-duds we were trained to roll over and take it. J-duds give in too easily, they rat themselves out at the drop of a hat. Just because they say it, don't make it so! Make them work for it, and if I've learned one thing in my time as a Dud, NEVER TELL THEM ANYTHING THEY CAN HURT YOU WITH! <<

True words. They love to come with "Trust in Jehovah" and "Leave the matter with Jehovah" when they really mean "Leave the matter to us and go away quietly."

I've also learned another thing the hard way which you meantioned: NEVER EVER volunteer information. Never be totally honest with the elders. And always have something nice to say about yourself, others, and the weather. Being unsinkably upbeat annoys them to no end. And they can't get to you with one of their tactics to guilt trip you and make you a sinner where you NEED their help and the help of the the Faithful and Discreet Slave and all their wonderful spiritual provisions. Sheesh - I can still talk like them! ARRRGH

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Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

by Jourles in

i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

Roddy

>>Statement of Baptism Nullification <<

This is good. Nice and legal sounding, covers your assets, and tells it likes it is.

Were you ever an insider in the WTS Legal Dept? Bravo at sticking it to them with their own methods! But serioiusly, God bless you! This could be the loophole for those that want to leave The Org peacefully while still holding-on to and maintaining their dear relationships of family and friends still stuck in there.