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  The Trinity

  by meadow77 in

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  2. beliefs

  top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.

  their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.

  the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.

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  Roddy

  Great cartoon Herk. True that only the Father knows the hour. Drives home the point.
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  11/1/02 WT: Why Should I Apologize?"

  by Room 215 in

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  aa usual, the boys in bethel prove their aptitude in the ``do as i say but not as i do'' department.

  they eloquently laud the virtues of open-mindedness, humility and freedom of speech, as long as it applies to others.

  this issue's covering article is but another in a long series of example.

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  Room215 >> It also seemed to me that durng their years of publication, the PT and the WT seemed to be holding to some sort of a tacit ``mutual disarmament'' agreement... neither seemed willing to criticize the other, withich in the WT;'s case was remarkable, given its propensity for bashing other faiths.<<

  I thought the founder of the Worldwide Church of God was an early JW, or at the very least, a Russellite breakaway who didn't want anything to do with Rutherford or was forced out by Rutherford. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  Anyway, if so, then that would make sense. After all, I don't read the WTS taking shots at Russelite organizations and groups. First of all, it would encourage interest - it wasn't until the Internet that I learned that Russelite groups existed. You'd think at how the WTS discribed them as they all fell away during the Rutherford term in office that they all died in a black hole somewhere. Secondly, they know where the early WTS skeletons are buried. One shot from the WTS and you can expect they will respond with a retaliatory informational bombshell. And, let's face it, information - even embarrassing information - is powerful!
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  was Jesus a woman?

  by spinner in

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  2. beliefs

  parousia: translated in the new world translation as the "presence" of jesus.

  zodhiates greek wordstudy dictionary states: .

  #3844-- para: alongside, nearby, expressing the notion of immediate vicinity .

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  Roddy

  C'mon, Jesus was a man!

  LOL
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  The Trinity

  by meadow77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.

  their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.

  the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.

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  Herk and others, you make a good case. I don't believe that Jesus is God nor part of the Trinity nor any of that. Thanks.
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  Catholics Smell Like TED JARACZ

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yeah, the roman catholic church leadership in virginia smells just like the spirit-anointed "boss" at the watchtower bible & tract society.... a priest who exposed sexual misconduct by fellow priests in northern virginia faces unspecified charges within the roman catholic church that supporters fear could lead to his defrocking.. in a court deposition, the reverend james haley exposed the affair that another priest had with a married woman.

  he accused two other priests of hoarding gay pornography and one of them of stealing from collection plates.. the three accused priests resigned, but haley's supporters say he's been on involuntary leave for a year and faces further disciplinary action by arlington bishop paul loverde.. in his deposition, haley said he was overwhelmed by the amount of homosexual activity in the priesthood, but was stonewalled by loverde when he provided evidence of impropriety.. news stories follow.... link: http://fredericksburg.com/news/fls/2002/122002/12022002/1038872022 .

  whistle-blower priest in trouble with diocese.

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  Quandry >> Although I am still an active witness, in fact an elder, it is ONLY because of my family ties. I have already come to the conclusion that this organization does NOT have 'the truth', I have been able to detach God from any man made organization and maintain, in fact, strengthen my personal relationship with Him even more. <<

  I'm not an elder but I was forced stepped down - and I'm glad. I feel a lot freer. I'm a JW too but basically inactive and I'm just under the radar screen. I do have friends who are elders. One that I grew up with and consider a good friend but is constantly sad, depressed even. He wasn't that way until about a year into his eldership. He puts up a good face but I know him better than that. I worry about him.

  I've learned a lot of things here and from other sources. And, of course, the things you pick up from being in the 'truth' for a while. I'm sure not every disfellowshippment were because of fornication. I'm sure some were apostate charges. And I'm sure some who were driven out because of apostacy didn't go quietly but after giving the elders an earful regarding the organization.

  I think my elder friend is having a crisis of conscience. He is not a stupid man. But I hope he survives. I'll be there for him.

  I'm glad you are holding up. I'm also very glad that your relationship with Jehovah is stronger as a result. Good for you! For me the disillusionment was a heavy burden but I've learned that for some things the Org was a protection for me. Kept me out of troubles - glad I wasn't an elder's kid, a lot of them get away with murder. [smile] Now that I see the dangers in the Org and from my own 'faithful' friends, I keep my wits. I'm not bitter but so much of my life was a waste. I hope someday that the Org would reform. But I starting to see that that will happen only if the GB were to die or discredit themselves in a big way.

  >>Anyway, the information that has especially bothered me is rumors about members of the GB, ie Greenlees, Sydlik, and Jaracz having allegations against them of pedophilia. I don't have the time to really investigate the validity of these accusations, nonetheless I am not quick to discard these allegations as just spurts from disgruntled xjws. If the GB could be responsible for so many injustices as are mentioned in Ray Franz's book COC, (I have not read the book completely, just excerpts here and there) what's to stop them from committing gross sexual sins and even worse ,continue to display such a "holier than thou" attitude? If in the end these allegations are proven, I have a strong feeling it will disenchant so many, it might really be the one card that brings the "whole" house down. <<

  I've heard the same rumors. I think they have a basis in fact because I've heard of some wild and inappropiriate activities that have gone on in Bethel.

  I think Franz's COC book has disenchanted many. Those that have generally leave or get kicked-out with disfellowshipping. Once they are out of the Org their threat is minimal. It is the very few of us who know that goes on and still continue flying under the radar that worries the Org. We are the cause of the GB's paranoia. They'd love to find us. [smile] But I've noticed through the years how assembly talks and even dramas have such a heavy current of obedience and loyalty to the Org. Even my long time JW friends notice and both tire and worry about it. To borrow a phrase from Princess Leia from Star Wars, 'The more they squeeze, the more we slip through out of their fingers.'

  Hang in there, one and all!

  Edited by - Roddy on 6 December 2002 1:30:40
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  my little heartbreaker is gettin big

  by flower in

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  2. friends

  isnt he just the cutest?

  these were taken at joy2bfree and jst2laws's place.

  he can be such a ham.

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  Cute, flower. But at first I thought what mother would allow her son to play in the snow without proper clothing. Then I realized that it was sand. That's pretty white sand you have there.

  So where is your pic?
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  My JW story

  by Aztec in

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  2. experiences

  i don't think any of this is really all that unusual so i'm sorry if you find it dull.

  i was raised in the jw cult from birth, a third generation member to boot.

  my family was full of elders, ministerial servants and overseers of all sorts.

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  Quotes >>I'm just chuckling at the thought of the "older men" asking all the lurid details at the JC.<<

  They are nosey dirty old men.

  Aztec, you shown remarkable restraint. I would have cut loose with exactly what I thought of their "investigation". You had the baby. That's the end of it. What else do they want? I think they secretly enjoy hearing, not the truth, but the intimate details. They view extracting information as God's work but it is verbal pornography. They fool themselves and they love it. They must really line-up for these kinds of cases. What's worse, they are not qualified. They are quacks, at best.

  Arrgh! Makes me mad!
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  Mormon scandal brewing in Washington State

  by Mulan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my youngest son brought this article to my attention.

  very, very interesting.

  it was in the seattle pi, yesterday, december 2.. student risks ire of mormons.

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  This article is impressive. One cannot help but see the disturbing similarities!

  I wonder. No JW should object to reading and sharing this article. In fact, let's share it to all JWs. Let's be technical - it isn't apostate, right? LOL

  Yes. Let the JWs read it, see the wrongness, and then let their conscience go to work! We can only hope they still have one.

  Edited by - Roddy on 4 December 2002 15:40:19
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  Holy Koran! Break out your calculator...

  by back2dafront in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm doing a little research on islam and the quran (koran) and i ran across the following website that explained why muslims think the koran is the only book inspired by allah.

  i never heard of this before, and frankly, i don't know what to think of this.

  does anyone have any insight on the significance of the mathmatics involved here?

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  Roddy

  I haven't been that interested in Muslims. I've known a few Muslims personally and they've been nice. I'm nice to all people. My attitude with Muslims is live and let live kind of thing even though I've been annoyed at the religious violence Islam inspires. But after 9/11, the suicide bombings of innocent civilians, and the continued terrorist assualts on innocents instead of on people who can fight back, I'm convinced this is a violent religion of fanatical idiotic cowards which lends itself to be exploited by self-serving apostles of hate or oil rich fatcats who starve their stupid uneducated people while they shift all the blame onto Israel and the West.

  If the Great Tribulation begins with the destruction of Islam, good riddance! I'll be dancing in the street. Consider it payback for 9/11!!!

  Please excuse my language but deleted

  Edited by - Englishman on 4 December 2002 11:53:12
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  Thank you "poster" who edited my rese...

  by Cappuccino OC in

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  2. friends

  a poster from this e-mail to the time to edit my first graduate research paper.

  the poster e-mailed me & wished to remain anonymous.

  even though i've had a tough quarter (1st yr. grad student), there have been many things that have brough smiles to my heart like the example above.

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  Roddy

  What is the paper about, Capp?