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  Suggested comment to add when answering at the meetings

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  inspired by the humour in cappytan's thread, i thought of a way those who are still forced to attend meetings can have some fun.... especially with the increase in articles with topics about "listen, obey and be blessed", a subtle method of having fun would be to substitute the expression "the governing body" wherever "jehovah" "jesus" is said.. imagine an answer such as this:.

  "yes, this paragraph helps us to see how vital it is to listen and obey the governing body".

  "yes, our strict obedience to the governing body is a way to show how much we love them".

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  Stuck: Imagine an answer such as this: "yes, this paragraph helps us to see how vital it is to Listen and Obey the governing body" or "yes, our strict obedience to the governing body is a way to show how much we love them"

  Here's what I imagine happening after you give such a comment: The first time you feel a little nervous and possibly even a slight thrill for being so bold and daring an undercover apostate hiding in plain sight. The second time you feel slightly amused. But then, when no one says anything except, "I enjoyed your comment!" you discover that you are surrounded by mind-controlled drones that have all lost the power of independent thought and your little game loses all of its excitement.

  If there is anyone in the congregation that suspects what you're up to, chances are they will be too frightened to talk to you about it (for reasons which I am sure are obvious).

  Let's review: You're in a cult!

  The only real question is this: When are you going to quit going?
  
  
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  Proof - of what?

  by Doltologist in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.

  being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.

  the first was called "was life created?

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  Oubliette

  I have a Chemistry degree and I have never heard of a 'non-living chemical'

  All chemicals are non-living.
  

  What is a "living chemical"? There is no such thing.

  It is true that all living things are made of elements combined to form a wonderful variety of complex compounds that in turn form the building blocks of cells which in turn are the structure of living things, but it is not correct to say that chemicals spontaneously form living things.

  We obviously now that life exists, and that we have studied it intensely and can even speak of the chemistry of life, but no one knows how life spontaneously began. To suggest otherwise is to teach another, different kind of religion.

  
  
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  God's Spirit

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is god's spirit?

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  i ask this of those who believe in god.

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  It's the imaginary force of an imaginary God.

  It's kind of like imaginary numbers, they aren't real.

  i^2 = -1
  
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  Crazy Comments

  by humblepotato in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i love the people who go to my congregation.

  they are sweet, friendly, and lovable.

  (which is one of the things that makes being awake so much easier.

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  HP: "It's better to be wrong WITH the organization, than being correct on your own."

  Yeah, I've heard that one before. All I can say is this: Well that is just so stupid!
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  Writing Department Interview on "The Generation."

  by cappytan in

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  2. friends

  a member of the writing department was gracious enough to allow me to interview him about the "overlapping generation" doctrine.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eo1o5qmagu.

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  It actually is that ridiculous:
  

  "What about a singing literature cart?"
  
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  The Governing Body-Faded apostates?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ive been here less than a year, but ive notice that the majority of us have faded for various reasons.

  we also read the stories of those who got disfellowshipped or disassociated themselves.

  in the majority of the cases, their parents will not talk to the children for years and the children will not talk to the parents even if they are dying.

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  Oubliette

  Giordano, interesting quote from Ray Franz. Thanks for sharing.

  He was, by the way, quoting John F. Kennedy from a Commencement speech which he gave at Yale University, June 11, 1962
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  Interesting video debunks Watchtower's "Things are getting worse" speak

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can't say too much without spoiling the ending.

  but this entire video is very interesting as it highlights wwii and puts the death toll in visual perspective.. https://vimeo.com/128373915.

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  Cappytan, you nailed it. They got it covered both ways. No matter what happens it always somehow proves them right!
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  Interesting video debunks Watchtower's "Things are getting worse" speak

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
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  can't say too much without spoiling the ending.

  but this entire video is very interesting as it highlights wwii and puts the death toll in visual perspective.. https://vimeo.com/128373915.

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  Interesting video debunks Watchtower's "Things are getting worse" speak

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can't say too much without spoiling the ending.

  but this entire video is very interesting as it highlights wwii and puts the death toll in visual perspective.. https://vimeo.com/128373915.

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  Oubliette

  Wow, that was fantastic!

  It reminds me of Steven Pinker's work on the topic, particularly his book, The Better Angels of Our Nature.
  

  Thanks for sharing.
  
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  New to the site

  by LexIsFree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my name is alex.

  i have been a reader/lurker of this site for over a year now.

  first time i am posting.

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  Oubliette

  Alex, welcome to the forum. Thanks for sharing your story.

  And welcome to the rest of your life!