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  What do you miss?

  by happyout in

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  2. friends

  ok, i'm not sure how popular this will be, but i have to ask.

  is there anything you miss from being a dub?

  since my family is still in, i miss getting together after assemblies and hanging out.

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  Buster

  I'm married (2nd time) and am not thinking about stepping out, but - The thing to remember in our hall were the girls!

  No, I am not just being generous - they ... were ... gorgeous. A couple of them were the best-looking girls in their high schools. This is a class of girl that wouldn't so much as known my name if they weren't JWs.

  Our parents were friends with each others' parents. My sisters used to have them for overnight stays. I used to stay over with their brothers. I went to several proms with girls that were prom princeses.

  Oh yeah, and now that I'm a bit older, their mothers were damn superb too.
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  For Sale - What the hell should I do with my books

  by hippikon in

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  2. friends

  what should i do with my books .

  we are in the process of buying another house and are on the move again.

  packing stuff up, chucking it out, selling the surplus you know the story.

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  Buster

  Hippo: just in case you are actually willing to do it - I would love the Rutherford book "Comfort for the Jews" and the three volume "Vindication" set. They will give me a complete 'Rutherford set'
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  Women ministers

  by Pleasuredome in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recommend to you phoe'be our sister, who is a minister of the congregation that is in cen'chreae.

  romans 16:1 .

  i thought it was only men who are ministers?

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  Buster

  Rich, this is an area where I haven't found any explanations that seem reasonable to me. In this particlar letter, Paul is asking the church to accept this woman. I think most commentary would say she is a minister in the sense of charity and hospitality - not with a formal preaching job. I have read some that says just that.

  But, inspite of what I've read, bible and bible commentary, it makes no sense to me that women would be relegated to a secondary role in the Christian church. It seems more liklely to me that women's roles in the first century church were constricted mostly by the mores of the times, and less by some divinely prescribed hierarchy. I think Paul was instructing the faithful to "be all things to all people" a.k.a. 'when in Rome, do as the Romans do' I feel firmly that if I spent the time looking into it, that I would find some basis for this belief.

  Has anyone else here done any such research?

  - Buster

  (of the 'Femanist For A Day' class)

  (Rich: now that you've been away for a while - do you miss any part of it?)

  Edited by - buster on 2 December 2002 19:28:38
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  ABUSE

  by CHICKEN LIPS in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  you know - being just a newbie here i have to say that even though many of you have been mentally put off balance (just like me!!

  ) that you all sound really nice and i want to be a part of this so much - it blows my mind..... one thing that i found very hard to deal with was the abuse that my two sisters went through at the hand of my uncle a jw.

  the family covered it up and that man is still serving in another congregation - every time i see him with young children around him i feel sick.....i think he should have been removed!

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  Buster

  You think he should have been disfellowshipped? Are you sure you're not being too harsh? If he did what you say he did, he should be dead. But short of that, a serious stint in prison and spending the rest of his life on a Sex Offenders' list is a place to start.
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  The Night the Elders called me.

  by NaruNaruChan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey all,.

  left the org approx.

  one month ago, so i'm freshly out and still working my way through the depression of losing my three best friends... but anyway, not important, what i was wondering was if any of you got this line from the elders the night you went to meet with them... so here's my story, take it or leave it.. i'm a homosexual, i've known since i was young, not raised in "the truth" but converted when i was seventeen, four years ago... anyway, i suppressed it, etc, until i decided that i wanted to leave the org.

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  Buster

  Welcome to the board NaruNaruChan!

  I think you'll find a lot of support here. I'll say one thing that I hope isn't too insensitive: Man did they do you a favor. It sounded to me like you were content to go along with the program. There is the outside shot that you didn't actually lose those friends - but maybe you did. Its not so bad here on the outside.
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  Ready, set, GO

  by Gig in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe all of you will be happy to hear that a jw friend of mine is finally willing to listen to me.

  i have slowly but surely been breaking off little tid-bits of info about why i can't see the one true religion thing happening with the wts.

  i have resisted the tremendous urge to "let 'em have it" and patience is prevailing.

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  Buster

  I faded away because I wasn't going to take the direction from those clowns. But I felt my eyes were opened when I took some scriptures that they are most fond of quoting and did some work. I read the surrounding chapters. Then, if the book was small enough, read it. Then I went onto the web and read some non-witness (and I don't mean anti-witness) commentary.

  This process built an appreciation for the message of the bible's components. The JW 'approach it like a jigsaw puzzle where the few enlighted get to interpret and tell the rest us' just seemed more and more absurd.

  It feels like a slow process. But it really drove the point for me.
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  women and augusta

  by hannibal in

  1. social
  2. physical

  this probably has been debated hear already, but after reading .

  another op-ed article this morning on the subject i thought i would .

  see what people thought about allowing women members at augusta.. most if not all of the articles i've read support women members being .

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  Buster

  To set the record straight, I don't think Augusta has a rule against allowing women into the club. They just don't do it.

  Forcing women into Augusta would be quite a setback, for the club and for the country. It is every man's right to be a pompous xenophobe in his private life, including his choice of how he runs his clubs. No woman, or man for that matter, has a right to belong to any particular private club.

  Of course the rest of us have rights too. We can NOT watch. We can NOT support sponsors. - that stuff.

  In the meantime, remember how absurd they seemed before they had any balck members, that a man that for all practical purposes could not be a member, looked like the perennial favorite to win?
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  'Religion' after the Witnesses?

  by happysunshine in

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  2. friends

  'religion' after the witnesses?

  is it possible?

  any comments?

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  Not me, no way, no how. I have come to believe that no God would make his approval contingent on one's being able to tolerate being led by those (and I mean anyone that wants to lead people spritually) clowns.

  I believe that religion is available for those that need it - sorta like the Israelites' demands for a king. If after leaving the JWs you still need to have someone lead you along the spiritual path, then knock yourself out. But I'll also say that anyone that does, deserves what they get.
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  Have you ever been in a car accident?

  by back2dafront in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious how many people have been the driver in a car/motorcycle accident.

  i've been driving for 12 years now and have up and down the east coast numerous times, across country and up and down the west coast numerous times.

  plus my commute to work for the past 2 years is 95 miles round trip.

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  Buster

  Yup, been in a bunch since I was little (dad driving) thru adolescence and a couple minor (could've been very bad) as an adult. Wanna hear about one I tell someeimes?

  Mid-seventies, I am on my mother's (yes my mother's) new (130 miles) Honda 400 Super Sport. I have one of my best firends, Tim, on the back and we are zipping thru downtown Franklin on our way to a carnival. Perhaps I am going a wee bit too fast as I go over a wooden bridge. But as I did, I saw a girl coming out of Cottage street on the right. She saw me and hesitatted, but of course decided to proceed right thru. When she realized that she should have stopped, she decided to stop right in the middel of Main street, right in my way. She could have kept going, she could have stopped at the stop sign earlier. So she picked a compromise, keep going until she got right in front of me, then stop.

  Thank God she had her window down! I hit that car with enough force to fold in the door and turn the new bike into a pretzel. I went into the car. She was the cousin of a classmate of mine. The helmet was turned halfway around my face, I was in her lap, and I asked her if she was all right.

  I looked up and saw Tim's hands dangling over from the roof of the car - he had been tossed onto the top. He got off, I hopped out, we moved the bike to the sidewalk, and did the paperwork thing. I called my dad and he brought the Buick and we went to the carnival.
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  Reach for God

  by donkey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why do humans search and/or reach for god?.

  if they are honest with themselves it is because have a fear or death or of non-existence.

  or they draw "power" from god.

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  Buster

  I've always felt that a search for God is largely the search for someone to unload the difficult decisions onto - to have someone to share the responsibilities of our own choices.