my sister went to the circuit assembly this past weekend here in bklyn ny.. they had a young sister on the platform helping to promote pioneering.the interesting point about this is that this young sister is attending college full time and actually said this in front of the audience.she brought out that she is going to college full-time and that since she "has only one more year left, she will wait to pioneer when she is in her last year of college because maybe then it probably won't be so hard.
" these were her exact words.. i find this to be very interesting.
those of us who have done parts or experiences or talks for circuit assemblies know that each talk and each part is scrutinized in practice sessions prior to the assembly in front of the circuit overseers.
OH, BOY!!
Soon we'll be seeing assembly parts where the society criticizes members for NOT getting a college education (to increase the funds they can drop into the coffers). After all, they never strictly PROHIBITED it.
It was just a case of members 'running ahead of the org' again!
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
most or all of the characteristics of coke that you mention, mulan, are caused by coke's undeniable acid ph level.
no mystery there.
lemon juice will do the same things you list for coke.
Francois, you forgot to mention that every single serial killer this country has known has been proven to consume quantities of DHMO at some point prior to going on a killing rampage...
IN FACT, DHMO is directly responsible for Stalin, Hitler, and Bin Laden living as long as they did - if they had been deprived of it at birth, surely, the world would have never know the terror they brought...
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
just saw a book titled "answering jehovah's witnesses: subject by subject" by david a. reed.. i did a quick search through the forum, and didn't see any posted comments of it (using the forums fairly limited search capability).. has anyone read this?
any good?.
this *sounds* exactly like what i would need to get my bro out - a doctrine by doctrine analysis of why the jws are wrong.... so, any good?.
Just saw a book titled "Answering Jehovah's Witnesses: Subject by Subject" by David A. Reed.
I did a quick search through the forum, and didn't see any posted comments of it (using the forums fairly limited search capability).
Has anyone read this? Any good?
This *sounds* exactly like what I would need to get my bro out - a doctrine by doctrine analysis of why the JWs are wrong...
So, any good?
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
i've noticed that quite a few people on this board have said that they are now pagan.
i'm starting to wonder if converting to paganism is something that many ex-jws do?
being a pagan myself, i am actually surprised at how i could choose the religion that jws probably hate the most.
Wiccans!
Howdy. Me, I'm pagan myself, but have not got into witchcraft at all (Wiccan or otherwise). I've known a few witches, but none recently, unfortunately...I did have a few questions.
I'm surprised this thread hasn't had more posters - I've noticed a lot of people mention pagan leanings in their profile.
(naeb: last night, Mango *did* suggest to expatbrit to change his profile pic to something more sexy than a tiger....)
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
i visited some relatives in my extended family and found exactly.
the same situation as elsewhere in witness congregations.. the next generation of witnesses isn't there.. a friend of mine, who still goes to some meetings, made the.
same observation independently.
Actually, LDH, I AM trying to convince him.
Young and naive, perhaps, but I'm still convinced I can save the world....
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
this was really interesting!!!
don't jump all over me if you spot an urban legend, guys.
it's just interesting........okay?.
LDH - read the site.
Some of those items are *technically* true - but, in practice, water would be more effective in each case.
The acid content in coke is FAR too diluted to have any effect.
Quote:
In response, Coca-Cola's head chemist, Orville May, testified that McCay offered a "distorted picture" intended to frighten unsuspecting consumers. May pointed out that the .055 percent level of phosphoric acid was far below the 1.09 percent acid content of an orange and that McCay's studies ignored the neutralizing effect of saliva.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
this was really interesting!!!
don't jump all over me if you spot an urban legend, guys.
it's just interesting........okay?.
Visit here for the water items:
http://www.snopes.com/toxins/water.htm
In fact, here is an interesting quote:
One liter is the equivalent of about four 8-ounce glasses. According to most estimates, that's roughly the amount of water most Americans get in solid food. In short, though doctors don't recommend it, many of us could cover our bare-minimum daily water needs without drinking anything during the day.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
this was really interesting!!!
don't jump all over me if you spot an urban legend, guys.
it's just interesting........okay?.
*sigh* - the items on list are all on Snopes (the Urban Legend reference page).
Pretty much every last item on it is false. (Got to www.snopes.com and visit the 'Cokelore' page).
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
i visited some relatives in my extended family and found exactly.
the same situation as elsewhere in witness congregations.. the next generation of witnesses isn't there.. a friend of mine, who still goes to some meetings, made the.
same observation independently.
sun...thank the 'quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com' site - great resource.
jt - block the letters in. [ i ] [ / i ] or [ b ] [ / b ](without the spaces)
mav - HellooOOooOOOOoooo....
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
JT - just a comment. The information you post is consistantly great, but it is very hard to parse through. You should try blocking off either your commentary or the watchtower quotes in italic, so one can distinguish the two. As it is now, they can sometimes 'run together', which is very confusing...
EX:
*** w50 7/1 204 Steps Toward Life ***(the 'quote' blocks are so my suggestions stands out - easier to read, no?)
In the Bible are the indisputable facts that prove that death is the result of sin,which comes upon all men by inheritance; that to Jehovah God belongs salvation; that the greatest crisis of all time is at hand, when the wicked will be destroyed at Armageddon and when those who seek righteousness and meekness may be spared in that great disaster; that salvation from death, and life forever in happiness, are open to the obedient ones; and that therefore a great emergency now confronts those who shall form the “great multitude”.As we can see from the above quote Brooklyn, like their fundamentalist “brothers” have absolutely no clue what an indisputable fact or proof is. To claim that the Bible contain “indisputable facts” about anything is an extremely silly claim to make. Yet this is the order of the day in the Watchtower magazine. Like most other religious, who deal in superstition and the unseen, everything seems to come true because someone claim it is. It also seems to help a whole lot if it is several thousand years since it allegedly happened. That seems to be the only criteria for truth or facts in these societies. Take a look at this example from the Watchtower:
quote:*** w94 2/15 16 "Tell Us, When Will These Things Be?" ***
Jehovah’s Witnesses are pleased to provide proof of this, showing how the physical factsof our day fulfill Bible prophecy.In reality Jehovah's Witnesses during the 100 + years they have existed have to this day never presented any such “proof” at all. It is just a load of hot air. Take a look at these examples:
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
