i hate cooking....i hate everything about it from planning meals, to grocery shopping, to loading the bags into my car,.
to unloading the bags and carrying them into the house, to putting the groceries away, to cooking, to cleaning up, to.
unloading the damn dishwasher!.
There was an article on the MSN network recently that discussed technology that is being worked on right now.
The article gave predictions of how many years it would take before the general public would benefit from the various products.
It predicted that holo-technology will be available by 2016! Just 8 years from now.
The article did not mention replicators, but I'm sure that if that word is put into a search engine, you would find that someone is working on it.
Worf
from where did existence come from?
in what period of time did existence appear???
wait a minute...how can existence come from nothing...when you cannot get nothing from nothing?
Blackboo,
You are correct in your view of existence.
Existence is axiomatic and requires no further explanation.
Existence simply exists. It always has and always will exist.
For anyone to say that existence at one time did not exist, is a contradiction.
Existence cannot not exist.
Good post. Interesting too.
Worf
i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.
i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.
during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.
White Dove,
Good. Tell him.
Metsman,
There is no way we would just sit back and let you minimize the cruelty that the so-called elders have put on this lady.
Additionally, your precious elders are not spirit-appointed, holy or otherwise, and not appointed by any god.
They were put in their so-called position by men, and a crappy lot at that.
i posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and i really think its worth a discussion.
leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the wbts.
a) 1935- no longer cut off for fds .
Pahpa,
Right on target. Thats exactly what has happened.
Worf
i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.
i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.
during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.
Metsman,
You feel you are being treated badly here?
After YOUR stupid comments about YOUR OOOH SO PRECIOUS ELDERS ?
TOUGH!
GET A REALITY CHECK! WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO SUCK UP TO YOUR BORG MASTERS!
FROM MR. WORF.
i posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and i really think its worth a discussion.
leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the wbts.
a) 1935- no longer cut off for fds .
jefferywhat,
You are absolutley right. Excellent post. These changes need to continue to be made known in every way possible.
I talk about these changes to people all the time.
watchtower is biggest scam ever pulled on this planet.
Worf
i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.
i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.
during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.
Metsman,
I was born into the watchtower society. My Father served as an elder for many years and so did I .
Your comments about how elders treat people are delusional.
Worf
it broke my heart to read about someone having to paying court fee's after wining a sexual abuse case against the wtbts.
she ended up winning 5,000 dollars but has to pay 220000 dollars in court feee to wtbts and for her lawyer.
crazy!.
This is disgusting!
This situation compounds the proof that there is no such thing as a "jehovah god", and this organization
known as the watchtower MUST be obliterated!
Worf
sorry no offense but why do some ex-witnesses here join another group....we have a muslim {muhamed was given a koran by an angel in a cave?
}....we have some baptists etc......i researched the bible and found there are 1,000's of gospels not part of the bible...so what's the deal...."fool me once shame on you..fool me twice shame on me" or do you have a reason for continued belief in religion...i really wan't to know since iam agnostic and don't believe in god or evolution????
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Hey jelcat,
True. if a person chooses to believe in god, thats their choice. If thats what makes them happy.
But, in response to your example, according to religion, god didn't just "paint" or "create", but god also supposedly wrote
a message outlining the purpose of his/her/its creation in sacred books such as the bible or the Koran or whatever sacred book
religious people believe in so that all could see the message. So, respectfully, I don't see how your example adds up.
But the points I made earlier were made as more of a general response to the question of the existence of god.
There simply is no honest, objective proof of the existence of some ethereal god who is out there somewhere or looking down from some place called heaven, as promulgated by religion.
But I agree with you that people are free to believe, or not believe, whatever they want to.
Worf
sorry no offense but why do some ex-witnesses here join another group....we have a muslim {muhamed was given a koran by an angel in a cave?
}....we have some baptists etc......i researched the bible and found there are 1,000's of gospels not part of the bible...so what's the deal...."fool me once shame on you..fool me twice shame on me" or do you have a reason for continued belief in religion...i really wan't to know since iam agnostic and don't believe in god or evolution????
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To reneeisorym,
I respect your opinion, but your example is the same type of non-sequitor that religion uses to indoctrinate people with the god concept.
First of all, you can find out who the gardener is, and see him/her, if you really want to. If not, there are plenty of other gardeners who are constantly seen doing the same work. So even if you didn't find that particular gardener, you have living examples of other gardeners who you can see, hear, feel, smell (if you if you got close enough to them), and I won't get into tasting. You can prove the existence of the gardener.
But you still can't prove the existence of god. You do not have living examples of other gods that you have seen doing some creating, so you can't even rationally assume the existence of the god who supposedly created this planet by using examples of other gods doing the same thing. Because such examples don't exist.
I am not trying to insult you, but your example is a non-sequitor: 'It does not logically follow', my points about the non-existence of god, that preceeded it.
Worf
