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Secrets of JW Elder Power

by Amazing in

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several days ago i posted a topic about how the newly reinstated could be disfellowshipped again for failing to attend meetings or particiapte in field service.

(this was based on the issue of lacking works that befit repentance.

) i used cautionary language about how this ""can"" happen, but was accused of making "dogmatic assertions" and that the organization book and the flock book never authorize such, and most of all the s-77 form sent into the society would trigger a co visit were it to state such things.

worf

This is a good thread Amazing.

benext: I live right in NYC in Queens. I grew up in the borg and was an elder for 7 years from 1992-1999. From what I 've experienced and observed, even here in NYC most elders will not stand up to CO's because they have no backbone even when the CO goes against what is written in letters. mags, Flock book etc.Most of the bodies of elders I know of here in NYC will cower under the CO no matter what he says. But you are right about the service dept. Some do have their cowardly contacts there.

If you are in NYC maybe we could contact each other. Maybe we know some of the same people and maybe we could share stories.

Worf

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I Interviewed J. R. Brown

by mikepence in

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see http://blogs.salon.com/0001138/ for a sneak preview.edited by - mikepence on 7 august 2002 16:2:52.

worf

Ronin1 is my sister.

On December 10th, 1999 my sister, my then wife, my brother and I had a four hour meeting at bethel with JR Brown and Bob Pevy. We had been seeking justice in my case for a year and finally after putting a lot of pressure on bethel officials by our constant calling and letter writing, we finally got a face to face meeting, no doubt a kangaroo court, but brown and Pevy both told us that no one had ever pushed so far for justice in the type of case we were pursuing.They also told us that the gb had assigned them to meet with us. ( I don't know if thats really true or not). But they told us that we had made a lot of noise at bethel and that our last name was now well known.

For the next four hours from 7pm to 11pm we presented clear evidence from their own writings and the Bible that showed that a grave injustice had been done to me and my family. Both Pevy and Brown both admitted that I had been railroaded.

But 3 weeks later I recieved a letter from them as a result of the meeting and they said they were not going to do anything about it.

JR Brown has no scruples and there is nothing nice about him.He is just as evil as all wts officials are and Pevy is the same too. I have no respect for either of them and I'm looking forward to the time when they will pay for supporting the most evil organization on the face of the earth when they know personally that the wts is bullshit. All they care about is their positions.

Worf.

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Joe Anderson Disfellowshipped

by silentlambs in

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8-1-02, addition to 7-31-02 press release .

joe anderson-disfellowshipped!

jehovahs witness child advocate.

worf

Yes Amazing,

It is time for the so-called religion known as the wts to be brought all the way down into non-existence.

Worf

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Jersey Assembly Hall? Millions in the ceiling?

by Cassiline in

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once again a post brought back memories of a jw story or perhaps urban legend.

the timeframe would have been (est.

) 1975-79. eastern us story/legend.. i recall the story as going something like this.

worf

I have always lived in New York and I remember all of the information posted here about the Stanley Theatre/Jersey Assembly Hall. When it was purchased there was a lot of excitement about it. In 1988 all congs here in the NYC area went there for a one day circuit assembly so the society could show off their new acquisition. They showed slides of all the refurbishing that was done and of course in their arrogance tied all of the events associated with the purchase and refurbishing of this theatre with the Bible. And of course the fight with the city to purchase it was labeled as "persecution" and "framing mischief by law". WHAT TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!

And don't forget that they were so proud of this building that they created a tour guide program so they could show it off to people from all over the world. My ex-wife was and still is a tour guide there. She had a written out program and on it was detailed instructions of where to start the tour and what to talk about and how many minutes to talk about each subject.Just like a public talk outline. And the chandeliers were considered to be the "highlight" of the outline.

Worf

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NEW YORK

by worf in

i spoke to the bklyn da's office today and explained some details about the pedophile coverup within the wts.i told him about the list of 23,720. he asked me if i had specific cases of child abuse from bklyn.

i had to tell him i don't personally know of any.therefore if anyone on this board knows about any wts pedophile cases from bklyn ny, please either call the bklyn da at 718-250-2340 or you can e-mail me at [email protected].

they did at least seem interested in this situation but it seems like it will take actual cases to convince them that something should be done.

worf

I spoke to the Bklyn DA's office today and explained some details about the pedophile coverup within the wts.I told him about the list of 23,720. He asked me if I had specific cases of child abuse from Bklyn. I had to tell him I don't personally know of any.Therefore if anyone on this board knows about any wts pedophile cases from Bklyn NY, please either call the Bklyn DA at 718-250-2340 or you can e-mail me at [email protected]

They did at least seem interested in this situation but it seems like it will take actual cases to convince them that something should be done. I also told them about the Dateline show and the Elders letters which over the years have instructed them to keep pedophile cases in-house. He asked me if I had copies of these letters and of course I do. It might be that any New York cases from any borough or county might get more action started here .So if you know of any please e-mail me or call the number above.

Hey, maybe we can get some more attention on this right here in the heart of the borg!

I will be away from the computer for the weekend so I will check any e-mails received on Monday.

KAPLAA!

Worf

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JW response to 23,720

by ChristianObserver in

found this posted and thought it should be brought to the attention of members ......... "from: [email protected] .

i have since had a chance to look into this matter.

the numbers are way off beam and appear to have been exaggerated by someone.

worf

Fredhall,

The list of 23,720 dirty scum jw pedophiles is definitely true. This was told to me by a high ranking jw official who served as troubleshooter for the borg, co, do, assembly overseer, elder and who knows all of the gb and the jw officials who live in the glass house known as the wts which will soon be shattered into countless pieces.

And those responsible for covering up all of these disgusting crimes, will be behind bars getting their asses whipped in the same manner as the sleeze belize.

You need to advise your boy jaracz to get his mouth and his ass ready for his new life.

Worf ( Warrior Class)

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Samuel Herd is Token Black Man of GB?

by D wiltshire in

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is samuel herd an uncle tom?.

worf

To Fred Hall,

Possibly you'll understand when the biggest scam known as the wts crumbles ALL the way down. Its crumbling now in case you didn't notice. And when its governing potty is publicly humiliated. BEHIND BARS!!!!

Worf

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Samuel Herd is Token Black Man of GB?

by D wiltshire in

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is samuel herd an uncle tom?.

worf

My family and I know Herd pretty well. Not only was he the CO for my mothers cong down in the south, but we dealt with him when seeking justice in my case. He is a liar and a total company man. He is just as evil as Jaracz and is a Jaracz clone.

While at 25 Columbia Heights and trying to discuss my case with him, my brother and I put this question to him:"Does the GB and the Society itself really care when elders and CO's go against the written instructions of the society such as those instructions in mags, letters, and the flock book?" We asked him this question because this very thing is what happened in my case. Elders and CO's BLATANTLY ignored the flock book, policy letters, and instructions given in magazine articles.And the gb were made aware of the full situation which is too detailed for me to describe right here.

Herds answer was these exact words: "No. We just chalk it up to imperfection."

No. Samuel Herd is not interested in change and will not be a force for change. He'll lie for the borg just as quickly as the rest of them. His ass needs to be in jail too.

Worf

Edited by - worf on 19 July 2002 15:27:2

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1000 asked to leave Brooklyn Bethel!

by cyberguy in

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1000 were asked to leave brooklyn bethel (actually, this includes the farm and patterson) "voluntarily!

" only 6 replied to the request in the last 3 weeks.

it looks like the "waters" of bethel are drying up, or rather, their revenues are drying up!

worf

Bluesapphire,

I couldn't agree with you more. This will have major fallout among the bethelites families, friends and this should also serve to wake up a good number of these bethelites out their borg sleep too. Since there are those who are showing that they don't want to leave, there will obviously be those who are forced to leave which will create more anger and rebellion as you mentioned in your post.

The borg is trying to remake itself to survive, in similar fashion as brought out in the book "Thirty Years A Watchtower Slave". But this time it won't work. The wts is going down, as in the name of justice, it should.

Worf

Edited by - worf on 18 July 2002 15:17:47

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1000 asked to leave Brooklyn Bethel!

by cyberguy in

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1000 were asked to leave brooklyn bethel (actually, this includes the farm and patterson) "voluntarily!

" only 6 replied to the request in the last 3 weeks.

it looks like the "waters" of bethel are drying up, or rather, their revenues are drying up!

worf

Cyberguy,

Thank you for posting this information.It confirms what has been talked about since last year. I also had heard from a very reliable source who has inside contacts at bethel, that this was going to happen. This is more information that shows us that the wts is going down.

I feel sorry for the possible economic status of the good ones.

But what has to be remembered is that many bethelites have shared in the evil and hurt and destruction of families and the shunning and the lost lives due to the blood doctrine and other evils simply by their working there and assisting to print all the mind control information even when they know its not true. And many of them who have been assigned to the congregations here in New York have even caused a lot of the evil to happen. I've known many bethelites over the years that were assigned to our local congregations and I've seen it first hand. One bethelite whose name has even been mentioned on this board was actually caught stealing out of the congregations funds but the body of elders covered it up. This happened in Rochdale Congregation here in Jamaica New York in early 2000. If anyone here wants his name just e-mail me.

Many bethelites, skilled or unskilled, know that the org is bullsh*t and they know the hurt and destruction it has caused throughout the years. One very prominent person there who knows the org is false is Robert Wallen. My family and I dealt extensively with him when fighting for justice in my case and we know how he is. And all you have to do is read COC page 324 and read about his conversation with Ed Dunlap and its obvious that he knows the borg is bullsh*t. But he doesn't care. He's got room and board and now he's one of the vice presidents so what the hell about what happens to other people. He even used information from my case for his own benefit to help get himself the position he has today.This I know for a fact.

Yet people like him have stayed there because of the positions they want and because they are too cowardly to face the real world like the rest of us have to do. They would rather perpetuate the evil conditions of the wts than do what is morally right: standing up for justice and for what is right.

So to the bethel people who will end up having to leave : WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD!!!!

WORF