I am sorry to hear that she has died.
Her book was one of the books that helped me to see the real truth about the wt when I read it a couple of years ago.
worf
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22Barbara Grizzuti Harrison dies at 67
by Dogpatch inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/26/obituaries/26harr.html.
barbara grizzuti harrison, who emerged as a popular, prolific writer of keenly observed nonfiction with a 1978 book about the dozen years she spent as a jehovah's witness, died on wednesday at a hospice in manhattan.
she was 67 and lived in the park slope neighborhood of brooklyn.. the cause was chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, said her daughter, anna harrison.
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Wrong type alternative service
by Yadirf inquoted below is the testimony of an ex-jw (one of the posters here) who faced the draft in the '60s.
notice the form of "alternative service" that he would've been required to do had he been drafted.
not civilian, but as one who would work in a military hospital ... which would be aiding the war effort -- a breach of one's neutrality.. .
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worf
War is destructive, but there are times when it is thrust upon you and engaging in it becomes necessary.
Even the Bible(whether God's word or not) says at Ecclesiastes 3:8 that there is a time for war.
Personally I feel that one of the best wars to wage is to war against the wts.
worf(warrior class)
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Deleted Because Boss is DF JW
by VitoJW ini am new here.
tho i have lurked, this is my first real post.. i was doing "personal research" for the last 5 years, tho was helped along recently when i was deleted as an elder because i work for a company owned by a disassociated jw.
there is no real definitive info in print, other than the infamous 9/15/81 wt, but the co held a mini-crusade and got me axed.. nothing personal,.... just business.
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worf
Vito,
Welcome. Your story is interesting and is another example of the absolute foolishness and injustice of the wts. I am not surprised.
I was removed as an elder because I stood up for what was right in the congregation and because I wrote a letter asking for clarification on a Questions From Readers article that dealt with the very situation I was standing up for. Even though the wts wrote back to me telling me I was correct, I was removed on the basis of that letter and I was accused of being belligerent.
I fought this all the way through the service dept and the GB. It finally came down to a 4 hour meeting at Bethel with JR (kiss ass liar) Brown, and Bob Pevy, both of whom are wt officials and both of whom acknowledged to me and my family that I had been railroaded and that that my removal as an elder had been wrong. They still refused to do anything about it.
There is no justice in the wts.
Welcome to the club.
Its their loss.
You seem to be gaining your freedom from the cult. Good.worf(warrior class)
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The Usual Jaw Dropping WT Hypocrisy
by metatron inthe latest watchtower contains a life experience from a. brother in nigeria.
he recalls an incident from his youth.. "another time, the principal of the baptist school attempted.
to abuse me sexually.
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worf
Metatron,
Thanks for posting this.
The fact that they would print that crap in the current atmosphere of pedophiles being revealed in the Catholic church and others, and KNOWING that the same thing exists within wt walls, shows how arrogant and overconfident the bklyn bastards are!!!!Whatever can be done to destroy the wt and put it out of business and bring those old fucks to justice is what should be done!!!!
worf(warrior class)
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Reasons why we hate JW's (as an org)
by ashitaka inmy first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
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worf
Mouthy,
I knew I could have been mistaken about that. :)
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Reasons why we hate JW's (as an org)
by ashitaka inmy first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
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worf
Zenu,
If I haven't proven anything, then neither have you.
If you want, tomorrow I will post to you, the references of control.
worf(warrior class)
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Reasons why we hate JW's (as an org)
by ashitaka inmy first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
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worf
Xenu,
I appreciate you posting an answer to me but the simple fact is that all this talk about Elohim does nothing to address what any of us has PROVEN TO YOU, about the control of lives by the borganization known as the watchtower society. Therefore if you are going to answer on this subject, address the issues raised and do it with PROOF, like the rest of us has done. You are simply trying to make excuses for the leaders of the borg with unprovable imaginary doctrine using some other vague belief system.
Guess what: IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!
Respectfully,worf(warrior class)
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Reasons why we hate JW's (as an org)
by ashitaka inmy first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
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worf
jrig,
Good points.
worf(warrior class)
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Reasons why we hate JW's (as an org)
by ashitaka inmy first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
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worf
GOOD POST ASHI.
And I too hate the wts. Because when you get down to the roots of the borg, and their reason for being in existence, there is NOTHING to love about that organization. NOTHING. Let the borg die painfully.
worf(warrior class)
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Reasons why we hate JW's (as an org)
by ashitaka inmy first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
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worf
Xenu,
Ashitaka was absolutely correct when she said that the borg tries to control all aspects of life.All you have to do to understand this is to look into the publications of the borg such as the Watchtower or awake! magazines and you will see that they have written rules on every aspect of life over the years. For example, you would find rules on the sex life of married couples, what kind of gatherings to have, and yes, what kind of clothes to wear, grooming of hair, medical treatment, whether holistic treatment is okay or not, what kind of books to read, movies to watch, theatre plays to go see, even a quote from a magazine that blatantly said that watching westerns on tv are wrong,rules on whether or not higher education is acceptable to God or not, what kinds of additional education are suppposedly acceptable for "Christians", rules on whether or not a person should think for themselves, marriage receptions, whether or not it is acceptable to arrange a gathering that people would have to pay for, and hypocritical rules on voting, military service, blood. Rules on visiting relatives who are not jehovahs witnesses, whether or not you should stay with your relatives if they happened to visit you on a meeting night.Whether or not you should go to a relatives wedding or funeral if it is held in a church, whether or not aluminum foil is okay, whether or not medical injections are okay, rules on transplants, rules that state that a JW is only being faithful to God if they go to 5 meetings per week. Rules on what kind of employment is acceptable.
If I'm not mistaken,(and I could be mistaken about this), the ONLY aspect of life that these pharisaical criminals might not have made rules on is what kind of FOOD we could eat.
But I could give you references on every subject mentioned above which would prove that Ashitaka was absolutely correct when she said that the borg tries to control your life.worf(warrior class)