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  Leaving or not

  by Norm in

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  the thread about people leaving has made me think of the 7 years i have been on the net and participated in various witness and ex-witness e-mail groups or discussion boards.. in these years i have seen many a person, which for various reasons come and go from such forums.

  there are of course as many opinions as there are people and in such diverse groups there will always be debates about every conceivable subject there is.

  people who come out of the watchtower society seems as a group particularly ill equipped to deal with disagreements and strong debates but of course some more than others.

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  worf

  Excellent Norm as usual.
  I just hope you never leave.
  worf
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  I'VE BEEN EXECUTED TODAY!!!

  by exodus in

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  a side of relief for me but angry for what happened after the announcement of my disfellowship from the wts.

  i urged my mother not to attend because of the emotional trauma and agony you experience.

  she's diabetics and any emotional let down can cause her serious problems.

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  TE,
  We've talked and so you know I'm here for you at any time.We really need to get together sometime.As you know our stories are very similar since we were both elders recently.
  worf
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  Abuse BOE Now At SL

  by silentlambs in

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  i now have links to the abuse boe letters.

  they are not scans of the originals but as all know they are completely authentic and accurate.

  you go to them from the "wt letters" button on the front page.. enjoy,

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  Max,

  I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THESE EVENTS WITH "EAGER ANTICIPATION"
  HMMMM. DOES THAT EXPRESSION "EAGER ANTICIPATION" SOUND FAMILIAR?

  worf
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  They Really ARE Drones

  by BoozeRunner in

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  on my way to a bus this a.m., i happened upon a mother and two sons (i think) doing streetwork with their magazines.

  the oldest son(he appeared to be about 15 years old) approached me and began his presentation with the 8/01 wt and its companion awake mag.. as i listened to him, i couldnt help but notice that there was no joy nor excitement in his voice.

  it was just a rehearsed presentation delivered in a monotone way.. how could the "troof that leads to eternal life" motivate someone so little when telling others about it?

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  worf

  Yeah Booze I remember.But I guess that was because "The End" was not yet but it was "coming soon" and we were so strongly under the cult mind control and it was us against the world and we just "knew" the Creator was behind the org and we were doing the "work" he had assigned us to do and we were just so happy, happy, happy.
  UNTIL OUR CONSCIENCE MOTIVATED US TO QUESTION, QUESTION, QUESTION.
  Worf
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  They Really ARE Drones

  by BoozeRunner in

  1. jw
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  on my way to a bus this a.m., i happened upon a mother and two sons (i think) doing streetwork with their magazines.

  the oldest son(he appeared to be about 15 years old) approached me and began his presentation with the 8/01 wt and its companion awake mag.. as i listened to him, i couldnt help but notice that there was no joy nor excitement in his voice.

  it was just a rehearsed presentation delivered in a monotone way.. how could the "troof that leads to eternal life" motivate someone so little when telling others about it?

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  worf

  Hey Bro,

  I see the same thing here in Jamaica NY. No joy just apathetically trying to hand out literature that they don't even read.Disgusting.
  Remember the 100th anniversary issue in 1979 where it talked about how Jehovah has been using the Watchtower magazine for 100 years?
  Well, I think NOT!!!!
  Worf
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  Doubt Not!

  by silentlambs in

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  i thought you might like to see a fax i just sent to j. r. brown.

  you can also pick it up on the front page of the website, you may also read and download the complaint that states the basis of this lawsuit.

  run wt run...... silentlambs.

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  worf

  This is such great news!!!!
  wts is gonna start getting what they deserve.
  Bill, great effort, great work.The child molesting touched my family too but the family member involved unfortunately does not seem to want to pursue anything though she lives in C.A. where they recently amended the law so you can go after a molester from even years back.
  Max, thanks for the news about the elders you know.I told my sister and she laughed gratefully.I find that bit of news especially interesting.
  I'm e-mailing this story everywhere I can. Newspapers etc.
  worf
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  Any interest in a meeting in the Northeast?

  by ChuckD in

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  would anyone be up for some sort of cookout / barbeque sort of thing somewhere in the northeast in the next few weeks, perhaps around labor day?

  being in providence, just about anywhere from ncy to boston would work for me.

  we could drink beer, make smores, and tell stories.

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  I live in nyc.I'm interested.I also know a few who have come out of the borg recently who would also probably be interested.
  worf
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  PREDICTION:

  by ros in

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  as we see a rising tide of problems confronting the new watchtower leadership, and a tidal wave swelling on the horizon, some interesting rumours are starting to trickle out.

  we are waiting to see what the fallout will be following the dateline expose' on pedophilia cover-ups, which will undoubtedly lead to exposing the watchtower's policy to cover up other criminal behavior so as to not "bring reproach on jehovah's name.

  " rumour is that the factions at headquarters are becoming increasingly divided.

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  Maximus,

  I,ve got information on a health insurance scam and the names of prominent ones involved within the org.I can tell you that a number of prominent bros here in NYC were involved.the Pres. was a prominent elder who gave grand sounding talks at all of our circuit assemblies.The VP was a sub CO who always gave eloquent sounding talks at the circuit assembly about not being materialistic.This same person along with the Pres of the company stole money from the company for their own use and was having a 1.2 million dollar house being built in Roslyn NY a ritzy area when they were caught by the Gov't. This happened in 1998-99.But there are indications that higher ups at hq were also involved in this whole scam.
  Maximus are you familiar with this case?I heard the two bros admitted to stealing half a mil, but from what I've found out they are not in jail. And they should be.Word is that a number of other bros involved lost their homes when the govt stepped in.
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  Read God's Word the Holy Bible Daily

  by Nicodemus in

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  for decades now, those words have appeared atop one of the watchtower societys buildings in new york city.. that exhortation may never have been more needed by jehovahs people themselves than it is today.

  recent posts have asked good questions regarding what can or will sustain individual jehovahs witnesses who do truly love god, but who may be disheartened by various things they have seen in the organization.. it is clear to me that many witnesses spend far more time reading the societys publications than gods word itself.

  one reason sometimes given is that the preparation and research has already been done for you, thus making it easier.

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  I'm just expressing my agreement with the comments in this thread about the wt publications.Its true that so much focus was placed on reading the publications.As mentioned though, we never needed them.When I started reading the Bible itself, I also learned how dishonest the borg always has been with the scriptures.The Bible is all inclusive.It says what it has to say w/o the help of some wt publications.
  And in addition to that Proverbs 30:5,6 says:"Every word of God is flawless;He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.DO NOT ADD TO HIS WORDS, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar."
  Wt publications have always added to God s word, the very thing he said NOT to do.
  The wts has been proved to be a liar and they will pay for it. Let them burn for what they have done.
  worf
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  INSTINCT

  by silentlambs in

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  i recently watched a movie called instinct.

  it starred anthony hopkins and told the story about a man who went to the wild to live with the gorillas.

  while the premise may have seemed farfetched, the movie offered an insight i had not thought of till i saw how the story was told.

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  worf

  Hi Silentlambs,
  Really enjoyed your post about instinct.I'm with you all the way and so are my brother and sister here in NY.
  "It takes only one person to start a revolution"

  worf