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hey guys,.
i was wondering if you have a response when you present stuff about pedo, un, rutherford, etc, and a jw says, "well they are imperfect people.. the last respons i got was, only jesus was ever the perfect channel of god - which of course i agree.. but it's like if you ever bring up anything about anything, the stock response is, "we'll it's an imperfect organization.... your response???.
ah hahaha
Most JW's seem to believe they have studied every religion on the planet and chosen the right one. So you not alone.
Professing to "have studied every religion on the planet" convinces me you "have just enough knowledge to be stupid."
You sound like the type of person who fills out an exam with the MOST right answers ah hahahaha!
Please note you are " quite entertaining from my perpective".
Edited by - wheelwithinwheel on 22 January 2003 1:22:25
it started in 1956. a girl was born.
with lovely strawberry blonde, curly hair.
dad and mom kissing.
Your story saddens me and squeezes my heart - I blink rapidly to stop the tears welling up in my eyes - (((April))) may you find peace to live with the past - and hope in having happier times come your way.
Dave
it started in 1956. a girl was born.
with lovely strawberry blonde, curly hair.
dad and mom kissing.
what happened to the three sisters since 1981?
Reads like the script of a platform demonstration at the Let God Be True Ministries hall
Edited by - wheelwithinwheel on 21 January 2003 8:23:0
hello to you all, i feel like i know a lot of you because i been here so long and watched you "talking" here so much.
please know that you are all helping many people.
i started to to the e dance called the "lurk" you've all done it or heard of it.
congrads on posting!
welcome to the "eyes picked out by birds of prey class"
(ha-ha-ha...another one bites the dust WATCHTOWER! Way to go!!!)
i have a little problem.for me it's a big problem because i'm in love with a jw and he love me too.. i would like know if the jw have a rules for love (teenagers)?.
not girlfriend before married ect ect.
xxx.
Les amities garcons / filles chez les TJ sont uniquement dans le but du marriage. Alors pour les TJ ton ami est beaucoup trop jeune pour commencer a frequenter. Meme si tu etait TJ ce ne sera pas bien vu. Si ton ami est baptise TJ il va se retrouver dans la soupe chaude, peut-etre au point d etre exclus (renie par toute sa famille et ses amis) si vous continuez.
Pour ton information personnelle voici un site du Quebec en francais concernant les TJ
http://pages.globetrotter.net/mleblank/mdoctrine.html
Edited by - wheelwithinwheel on 20 January 2003 13:12:26
my last therapy session was all about the "truth".
after many sessions i finally brought up the thought that maybe some of my depression and low self-esteem issues have to do with spending 40 years in a high-control religion.. i won't bore you with all the details but some of the highlights of what i said bothers me are:.
my never feeling like i am doing enough or are good enough.. having regrets about missed opportunities and having let others control my life.. constant changing of doctrine and dates.
Hi Far North. You must be from frigid Canada like me. I have to agree with others here.
Im a 3 rd generation Dub, was in the high-mind-control cult for 40+ years, pioneered, eldered etc.. I felt much like you and understand where you are coming from. Read C of C. Then ask yourself who taught you and made you believe that:
YOU have no hope for salvation
YOU will never make the grade
YOU can never do enough to be "whole-souled".
Everything YOU have done in the past is negated.
That YOU are presently in a spiritually "sick" condition
Jehovah is an exacting God who has no problem destroying the majority of mankind.
So what chance do YOU have?
YOU still don't think YOU have any chance to be one of the "spared ones
the answer is the Watchtower does the Watchtower faithfully represent God or the Bible? Youll shake your head in disbelief as you read how this group of men, who seemingly don't have any more insight into scripture than the average day-to-day busy J.W., claim to understand every verse of Bible prophecy and doctrine. Unfortunately their personal view's and understanding's end up deciding other people's beliefs, hopes and lives. We, as J.W's, taught people studying with us to make sure of all things, to do research, and to leave behind false teachings. It is sad to say that we never personally examined our own religious history and organization. It was presented as unnecessary...and was actually forbidden. So w e took for granted that what we were being told by our parents and by our religious leaders was the truth of God. Is that really so extraordinary? Most of mankind live and die professing the same religion. I consider myself lucky that I finally woke up and chalked J.W.s up on the board with all the other Babylon-the-Greaters. Better late than never!
well, my daughter decided to write they letter.
the foundation for this letter can be found in my previous thread a couple of days ago which can be found at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44457&site=3.. she wrote her heart and gave them some good counsel.
she was generous and kind in her comments, yet concise and to the point.
Great letter. The letter was the easy and cheap way for you daughters ex to be free to get remarried. Now the elders will tell the ex that he will have to gather evidence (hire a detective to follow your daughter etc.) to prove she is living in sin. When they feel sufficient proof to have been gathered, then he will be able to remarry.
i have decided to no longer be a jw.
this comes after spending all but 3 of my 36 yrs on this earth as one.
yes it is a huge step, but one i know i must make.
Fade... let them ask why... tell them there are a lot of things troubling you... don't empty the whole barrel all at once, tell them 1 thing that upsets you at a time.
If you mention facts that are undeniable and simply say they are troubling you it will be difficult to d'a you. A C.O. visited us and wanted to know what was going on. We told him a lot of things were troubliing us like people getting told not to have kids now on their pension, 1975, the peace and security talks, king of the north and south etc. He couldn't deny any of the points that we told him upset us, and he couldn't d'f us for them ... after all we didn't teach them!
for me the most boring activity is filling out income tax forms.
i find the most boring person is the dali lama.
just looking at him makes me feel bored.
hard to rate these in order:
the January meeting detailing how to conduct thyself for the summer conventions
the visiting gouverning body member's talk at the convention
