In my doctor's office is a poster of a casket with a beautiful rose spray covering it.
The caption below says: The only time he sent her flowers was after he beat her to death.
Tina made excellent points - NOW.
waiting
one more topic.. my wife just called up to tell me that she was over my parents before a doctor's visit, chatting with my mother, when my crazed jw father threw my small 14 year old brother down the stairs and punched him for not wanting to study.. i've been beat, thrown down stairs, had potted plants thrown at me, chased around the house, and such, for not wanting to do the family study.. this is what the "truth" does to people, all you loyal jw's....take note...... (i'm so angry i'm shaking).
ashi.
p.s-my father said he was leaving my mother--oh god, pretty please, you motherf**ker.
In my doctor's office is a poster of a casket with a beautiful rose spray covering it.
The caption below says: The only time he sent her flowers was after he beat her to death.
Tina made excellent points - NOW.
waiting
dear friends,.
i will try not to make this a maudlin goodbye.
well, maybe a tad maudlin, but not goodbye .
Hey Bridgette,
As you may well know (I do after 3 pregnancies) - our hormones during that time are unbelieveably strong. Also, I think the desire to protect our growing family is strong - which can have an effect on us when we hear of other families being torn apart. It's natural, and a help to us as mothers. We want to protect.
I had a close friend who was a sargent detective on the child abuse squad in Indpls. He said every once in a while, they'd all go out and get stinkin' drunk, laugh, dance, cut loose. Otherwise, they'd lose their minds with what they saw daily.
Perhaps right now, you're not able to distance yourself. Take a break and enjoy your family.
Catch ya later!
waiting
for all who have, are, or will be shunned (which should pretty much be all of us), do you still have a deep love for those who now shun you...now, not familial love, but an active love that yearns for that person's companionship?.
i have several regrets; one of them is the friends that i've lost.
how about you guys?.
fine post, gary........following your advice.
((((((((((((garybuss)))))))))))))
ok. ok.
((((((((((((everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)))))))))))))))
We deserve it!
waitng
i don't want to spam, but i just wanted to post one more topic tonite.
i was reading bridgette's post, and was moved, but not just because of what she said...mommy made a comment about us being friends here, and you know what...i feel that way too.. sometimes, even though i have a wife who left the jw's with me, i feel so damn isolated and alone, that i'm the only strong one among a bunch of children, who all fight and tear at each other....this is one place i feel semi-normal again.. it's so hard to befriend people now.
i have so much trouble talking to people and interacting socially with people, although i've been told i'm agreeable to be around.. i don't know, i'm exhausted from thinking.
Hey ash,
And now you know why I, and other oldtimers like me, stick around here. Kinda grows on you, eh?
Take care and be careful.
waiting
for all who have, are, or will be shunned (which should pretty much be all of us), do you still have a deep love for those who now shun you...now, not familial love, but an active love that yearns for that person's companionship?.
i have several regrets; one of them is the friends that i've lost.
how about you guys?.
Howdy,
Remember Hitler? He knew what he was doing - he designed a system where people would humiliate, then hate, the very essence of others such as Jews, Gypsies, later jw's, homosexuals, etc. Oh, don't forget the mentally incapacitated - easy target. He knew how to keep people under control, divide and conquor - while keeping his target audience unified.
The WTBTS has learned well. We are the disposable ones. I miss some, and I know they think I'm weak. Screw them.
We will survive - just like those that fought outright, or quietly, against Hitler. It's our choice to have a better life.
I would assume that the Jews who fled to America, and lost everything, missed the things they lost - but they survived, and some had a better life.
Enjoy. It's our right to have our own lives.
waiting
one more topic.. my wife just called up to tell me that she was over my parents before a doctor's visit, chatting with my mother, when my crazed jw father threw my small 14 year old brother down the stairs and punched him for not wanting to study.. i've been beat, thrown down stairs, had potted plants thrown at me, chased around the house, and such, for not wanting to do the family study.. this is what the "truth" does to people, all you loyal jw's....take note...... (i'm so angry i'm shaking).
ashi.
p.s-my father said he was leaving my mother--oh god, pretty please, you motherf**ker.
Dear Ash,
I come from the same background - seen, experienced the shit kicked out of me & the ones around me - including my every pet I've ever owned beaten repeatedly, raped, gutted in front of me.....of course, it was a lesson to me - and I learned.
This is not about you at the moment.....this is about your brother surviving. Secondly, it's about your mother and you.
But your brother was the one thrown down the stairs. Do something that protects him without endangering others. It's probably possible if you think about it. You're a smart man - we've seen that.
Help your brother now.
Take care.
waiting
dr albert ellis has identified 10 irrational beliefs that can influence us and contribute to over reacting in specific situations.. knowing them is the first step in taking back your personal power and not becoming a casuality of such irrational thought.these screwy beliefs tend to make us 'awfulize,think in terms of 'they should,i should' and dysfunctional rationalizations.. 1. worrying too much about what other people think of you.
excessive worrying creates a strong fear of rejection.. these folks will ignore the self to please others or will display this insecurity by attacking others in order to stay distant and detached.. 2. i must not fail at important tasks,and if i do it's terrible and i can't stand it.. 3.people and things should always turn out the way i want them to-and if they don't it's awful,terrible and horrible,and i can't stand it.. 4.if any of the first 3 bad events happens(if im not liked or respected,if i fail,or if things don't turn out as i'd like-then i'll always blame someone for it!
they acted wrongly,as they should not have done,and they are rotten people for acting in that terrible way!.
yeah........kinda like spittin' in the wind, eh?
If someone close to you says, "You make me mad." Do not respond by saying, "I am not making you mad, you are making yourself mad."It's a true statement....but so are the consequences of spittin' in the wind.
Glad to see your post, Larc. Hope Ohio weather is doing ok? Looks like a storm might be coming your way. Stay warm!
waiting
one more topic.. my wife just called up to tell me that she was over my parents before a doctor's visit, chatting with my mother, when my crazed jw father threw my small 14 year old brother down the stairs and punched him for not wanting to study.. i've been beat, thrown down stairs, had potted plants thrown at me, chased around the house, and such, for not wanting to do the family study.. this is what the "truth" does to people, all you loyal jw's....take note...... (i'm so angry i'm shaking).
ashi.
p.s-my father said he was leaving my mother--oh god, pretty please, you motherf**ker.
Hi Ashi,
Hopefully, you'll call the police. Even if your mother & brother won't tell, perhaps there's bruises that the police will question.
Perhaps you can tell them about what your father has done to you - so they'll look at your brother closer.
Even if charges can't be brought - it goes in their computer, and the next time the bastard does this - whether to your family or another, it'll pull up that he's got a history.
Please think about it - for all of your family's protection. For your brother.....he deserves better.
Take care.
waiting
in our search to understand the true nature of the watchtower,.
it is likely that many of us consulted orwell's "1984".. in that book, one important component of big brother's rule is the.
use of "newspeak".
"canned response" is correct.
Bring up almost any topic - and it's predictable what the response is going to be, even on non-biblical subjects. Particularily this is true among the less educated.
I have a 20 year old jw working for me. He cannot defend his beliefs further than 2 layers of objections - he just gives up and says he believe the Bible. Like he knows it.
We used to get so frustrated with people like that at the door. "I was born a Baptist, and I'll die a Baptist." We used to leave and chuckle "You sure will."
Well, we were jw's...............
waiting
while having a wonderful visit with my way-cool sister, waiting, her hubby, her and i were discussing the number of hours per week it took to be a jw.. here's a breakdown of the time i spent per week:.
5 meetings a week = 5 hours.
getting dressed and travel time = 5 hours.
Hi Pretty Pat!
While having a wonderful visit with my way-cool sister, Waiting, her hubby, her and I were discussing the number of hours per week it took to be a JW.
I believe the proper wording would be she and I........
Lord!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe it! I actually caught my "very word proper sister in a minute error! I did it! I did it! And I'm not backing down on this one.
Other than that........a couple of other hour/day/week jw spenders were the Circuit Assemblies, District Conventions, and One-Day Assemblies just thrown in to confuse everyone.
Some of us had to work extra hours to make extra to spend our vacation time sitting/dozing/murmuring for days on end.
"The good old days" back when - those poor jw's had to sit for 8 long days, and evenings, no air conditioning, living in tents, for the priveledge of "spiritual food at the proper time by the Faithful and Discreet Slave - a sumptuous banquet of well-oiled foods."
I loooooooove sleeping in on Sundays.
waiting
Oh! And studying with our family. 1.0 hour weekly minimum.
Also.....for the elder above......time preparing for parts, elder meetings, "backroom visits", and a host of other stuff, eh? Hour upon hour upon hour upon hour.