i have pioneered for over four years.
i have three children and a wife who at times has severe back problems.
i have worked two jobs just to stay ahead of the bills and provide for my family.
SC, my husband & I had this exact discussion over pizza last night. He is not a computer talker, he's a computer roamer, but he's glad I have someone to talk to - then I talk his ear off.
Our sentiments are the same, we wish we had someone to talk to face to face - but in our congregation, there's not. We have quite a few fine brothers and sisters, and our elders, in general, suck.
The internet does fulfill a need.
women don't like,.
#1 unclipped hair protuding out of your nose and ears.. #2 showing up at the restaurant without reservations.. #3 using her money to buy a gift.. #4 asking her daughter out if it doesn't work out.. #5 watching the football game while she says:"we have to talk!".
#6 being a couch potato on your days off.. #7 never, never say she's fat even if she is.
Residing in the South, I was really taken back when I saw grown men just standing around "holding themselves." I don't know how else to politely say it - but I hope you understand what I'm referring to.
My husband says they have even been given counsel over the years for brothers not to do this. They don't, in general, but, man, do others do this.
My husband says the equivelant is a woman "adjusting her bra straps, and whatever, in public." I told him to mind his own business - he said he was going to start "holding himself" 'cause I never did it for him.
Men can be so rude - unlike women.
Men also keep toothpicks in there mouth forever. Why? They don't realize it makes them mumble. Men also jingle all the stupid change in their pockets for eternity!!! Drives me nuts when they do that during prayer. Obviously, I don't focus on the thought of the prayer, but just want to slap the fool out of the men jingling!
i ran across this on truthsearcher.
i would appreciate anyone's thoughts on this.. __________.
who is the "alpha and omega" and the first and last"-jesus or jehovah?.
7, I'm too tired to think this hard - I'll let some others voice their learned opinions, then I'll think about what they have to say.
Sometimes this religion stuff makes my eyes go crossed and I need aspirins. You think too much - that goes against the grain of being young, single, and pretty. Stop it.
i have pioneered for over four years.
i have three children and a wife who at times has severe back problems.
i have worked two jobs just to stay ahead of the bills and provide for my family.
SC, if your "status" was arrived at by being a pioneer, instead of being yourself - as we're always told by our parents "Well, you don't want those kind of friends, anyhow."
There are good people in any congregation - and there will always be those who can't see past a title. Go look for the good ones and enjoy your family. Enjoy!!
a few months ago during the elders' meeting with the c.o.
i could not help but express myself to him when the subject of meeting attendance came up.
now this is a nice guy as far as c.o.
Hey, Frenchy, I'm sorry to say, the last moving talk I heard was about 25 years ago by an elder in Indiana. He was a long time pioneer, and an excellent speaker. I also heard a talk given by a black brother who actually was funny and informative. But talks like that are few.
I've always complained about the lack of quality speakers in the local area I live in. My husband pointed out to me that there are few articulate people, even less articulate blacks in our area. I am not being racist - blacks make up 80% of our congregation, and 6 our of 7 of our elders. For all their kindness, they, in general, in our congregation, are not good speakers.
But your right - they are not the main problem - the main problem is that the information is dry and repeated. But when some brothers get off the beaten track - they really make ignorant statements, so I can see the Society's point to go from the outline. One black brother who was a good speaker, went out on his own thought and said that Geronomo was like Satan. I took offense at that one, seeing that my children are half Indian.
I also feel that as a whole, the Watchtowers studies are in the same boat. My husband and I just talked about this matter. We have many children in our congregation, and they are called upon in abundance. I know the argument that the reason that the books, meetings, articles, etc. have become (for the most part) simplistic is because of all the new people in the organization - and they couldn't keep up with us older ones - so we stay at their level. Which, by the way, is probably why so many children are able to answer so many questions.
However, it does make for the going over the same information on a forever basis. Such as the Greatest Man book two times in a row in our book study.
Perhaps our faith is dependent on Jehovah and we have over the years become dependent on the Society instead. That would be our fault - but we were taught to do so by our beloved Society. Perhaps we just put our faith and free thought aside so we could stay, so that we and our families would not die, so that Jehovah would accept us. And, perhaps, we are finding out that this doesn't work.
Either you or another Frenchy are posting elsewhere. I enjoy your posts where ever I find them.
when i'm in a melancholy mood i almost always think of an old shanty (perhaps because i grew up in one) nestled on the side of a mountain (perhaps because i love the mountains so) with tall green pines jutting straight up to the sky.
i think of slow, drizzling rain tapping out a melody on a tin roof while a cold wind sways the green pines.
i was in one of those moods when i wrote 'endless night'.
7, all jokes aside - perhaps it's time to get a life. If you don't have children - foster, or big sister a little one - there are millions who are looking for someone. Volunteer at any place - the need is great and the feeling of accomplishment is even greater.
You have money - great - share some with some kids, buy some books or toys for a woman's shelter. Then read the books and play with the kids.
When I was little, my father was cruel beyond polite words. My aunt, a very liberal NY educated Catholic lesbian, who *really* disliked men, would breeze through our home to visit. Dad would behave when she was around. I loved her for the fresh air she brought me. She never knew the gift she gave me. Freedom from fear and laughter when she was around.
She developed early senility and was found wandering in Colorado several years ago. Never been married, her family would not help her. I flew out to see what I could do. The city had put her in a psych. hospital because they didn't know what to do with her. I flew her home with me. She had been incarcerated there for a month while her brothers and sisters refused to lift finger.
The hosp. administrator asked me where I appeared from - I arrived on Thurs. and arranged to bring her with me on Friday. They were ready to put her in a nursing home in Colorado because they couldn't house her any longer.
I told the hosp. admin. about my aunt and father and the gift she had given me. I told him that I felt obligated to return the gift of freedom to her. Then I told him (I'm so deep - rarely):
Be kind to children - you never know who might save you.
Reach out and be kind - you might save yourself and save a child who is being crushed.
i just read this on h2o:.
posted by joseph malik [josephmalik] on may 27, 2000 at 15:24:10 {fwfbgnmqk2wtn58ygbc6kwpnhmz1io}:.
the gb voted last wednesday to allow blood transfusions.
Frenchy, I read the same post on H20.
I believe the Society is trying to be politically correct in public while the poor ignorant publishers - with children - will still do what "their Bible trained consciences" guide them to do. And who has trained their consciences - since the Bible is quite silent on blood transfusions?
Just like the Questions from Readers on voting in January, (and I heard a rumor that voting was worded such so that JW's would be allowed to vote in France - enough to try to change political views - and perhaps tax laws?) the rank and file JW will be kept in line by their elders and the strong, unspoken word, of the Governing Body of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Inc.
In other words, everything has changed in public - nothing in private. I grew up that way - it is hypocritical especially in light that we are told that we have to follow them.
here it is, it's called,.
walk a mile in my gucci's.
dear sevenofnine,.
7, I just figured out that you wrote one of those Star Trek sayings and Spectrum the other. I was at work when I first read them and they just slid over my head. Go figure.
What's happened to this board? From religious questionings, to religious grips, to jokes, then friendly jabs. Could we be becoming friends?
I must say, I do feel like Red - a frumpy (myself) chaperone. I told the young men (18 & 17)who work for me that my husband & I were going to get drunk and have good sex tonite. They were soooooooo grossed out. Stupid twits. By the way, here I am writing on the web while my sweetie sleeps.....life ain't so bad. By the way, there was no sex - but it was good to gross out guys - it doesn't take much.
i have pioneered for over four years.
i have three children and a wife who at times has severe back problems.
i have worked two jobs just to stay ahead of the bills and provide for my family.
SC, none of our 9 elders are regular pioneers, nor aux. pioneers.
Like you, raising a family, caring for your wife and all you guys' spirituality is a heavy job.
Add pioneering for many years - and your poor back must be sore.
If you can stand the weight, more power to you.
If you shift the weight to help your family, you may have more power in all respects.
Enjoy your picnics, your children will remember them fondly. Trust me on that one.
simon i'm sorry i don't mean to rain on your parade but you have to remember the society and your local elders watch for stuff like that.
this is a very liberal board as far as discussions go and forever thankful for that, but you have to be careful because you could face a jd meeting.
i'm sure everyone is well aware that some posts on this board just wouldn't go over to well with the society.
I noticed while reading the conversation between 7 and Redhorse, that after a half dozen or so, Frenchy pops in. Does he follow the thought process of these two women? No, he falls to the level of cheap humor (like I did). Poetry and cheap humor, hummmmmm.
7, I still contend that you must have big feet, don't wear deoderant, something that we older ones can feel smug about. I'm quite sure of it - even though I don't have a shread of evidence. We women do that down South - Frenchy can confirm that truth.
7, don't give up or in to your family. Sometimes, your kindness can break barriers, or soften them. Boundries can be set for everyone's benefit. My son and I strongly disagreed over his life style during college. We loved each other dearly. We finally came to the mutal decision that we would "agree that we disagreed" and put that one big issue aside while trying to rebuild our polite conversation skills with each other.
That developed into lunch every other Tuesday, which was a blessing for me, because that was after my therepy, and I really needed a friendly face and hug (even though I had to buy his lunch every time.)
Sometimes, when you can't talk face to face, Hallmark cards work wonders - especially the joke ones. My kids & I send cards to each other all the time - and it's worth the effort because it makes us laugh - and that's a great gift.
