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  Beautiful Poetry by Frenchy

  by waiting in

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  please go to the section under literature & reading for a pleasure.. normally, i don't like poetry - yet printed these out because of their beauty and softness.. thank you, frenchy, for sharing your art with us.

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  waiting

  Hey, Frenchy,

  Gracious my butt (as they say in the Low South).

  I just realized how comely your words were. And I figured if I had overlooked this area of refinement, well, others might too. Obviously I was right.

  Share some more?
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  Can we get to know each other now?

  by waiting in

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  i've picked up a little about each of us on the db, but we're a reclusive little group, aren't we?.

  well, my picture won't be going up any time soon, but i'll put out some personal information and hopefully others will too.

  makes chatting more fun, don't you think?.

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  Hey, mgm,

  Your wife is Asian? I'll bet your daughter is beautiful. We live near a military base with a lot of Asian persons and their children are all dark-eyed beauties.

  Congrations on living in Switzerland, too. Wow.
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  Saving them for what?

  by Ozzygal in

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  i find myself lacking in zeal in the door-to-door work.

  i have this hidden feeling that these worldly people are better off to face jah's judgement at armageddon with their ignorance intact, rather than to bring them into our fold to struggle daily for worthiness and perhaps be set up for failure.

  does anyone else ever think this way?

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  Redhorse,

  I'm sorry that you had such an ugly experience with persons who were supposed to be your friends - and your mother's friends.

  Such things should not happen, but they do and sometimes it is almost unforgivable. Compassion is hard for a lot of people, but so is Christianity.

  Thank you for sharing your experience with us.
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  Wow...we've topped 1000 Posts !

  by Simon in

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  thank you everyone for helping to make this a success.. i'm sure the no.

  of members will start creeping up to now as people start to join in instead of lurking (yes that means you!).

  ...just trying the 'hard sell'

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  Remember Kevin Costner in the movie, Field of Dreams?

  His famous quote: "If I build it, they'll come."

  Well, you gave us unpopular players a place to come and we're enjoying our relationships and thoughts.

  Thanks for your efforts and for making it Simple, Simon.
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  My Journey

  by Frenchy in

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  i suppose we all think of ourselves as unique and we are in so many ways.

  what i fail to realize, i guess, is that we are far more alike than unique.

  every now and then i will reveal some little fear or quirk or dream that i have only to find out that someone else has experienced the same thing!

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  Dear Group,

  The thoughts entered here are really group thoughts, but mgm put it rightly - how do we know unless we talk to each other.

  To me, that is one of the damning evidences against the Society - we are afraid to talk about what is on our minds.

  Being a woman, I will never speak from the stage, however, I was very active during the WT studies, etc. I was very careful to quote the par, line and words, because when most of the friends speak, they speak unrealisticly. For instance, the Society says: Maybe we'll see the end by 1975. When the para. is answered, someone will invaribly say: God's Word says the end will be in 1975.

  Now if it's a brother, at least down South, I've got to be able to quote from the WT article to even try to say what the Society is saying. I've been hauled to the back for correcting a brother (even if it is a stupid comment). But sometimes, I would look in amazement at the elder conducting the study - he will not correct any person - so ignorant or plainly wrong perceptions will be allowed.

  I got to wondering if that's not the agenda -the Society carefully words things to keep themselves straight, but surely they realize that the vast majority of brothers will "read" into their words definitives. At that point, are we really learning from the scriptures or is it really doubletalk? I personally started taking a couple of WT magazines with me to the meetings and read them just to keep my mind off the odd comments from the friends.

  The paradox is that the friends are good people, and some are smart, some are dumb - just like the world at large. But we try. But if we're being fed like farm animals instead of cherished house pets - well, what happens to farm animals, particularily when their usefullness is done?

  We are cast aside for greener pastures, better milking cows, etc. To me, it seems like the Society has set their specs on the Third World with gusto. We've given our best milk - and we're tired of being milked (some of us).

  Back to the discussion of the new, improved literature arrangement and the Third World. Here in the South, and it is in the KM which established the donation system, I have recently reread it, when you pick up your literature, you are to make a donation to cover the cost of printing. Then if you get a donation for the World Wide Preaching Work, that, all of it, is to be placed in the appropriate box in KH.

  Double payment for literature, and the publisher absorbs all printing cost, which according to Randy Watters, is highly profitable. According to
  figures from England's financial reports - he's right.

  The publishers in Third World countries are already poor, much worse off than us, are they to absorb the "printing costs" for the Society? I know the argument can be made, and will be, "Well, that's why those who have more should give more."

  That's not the underlying issue - are the publishers paying for the literature and collecting donations for the Society? If so, the Society is doing us a grave injustice - not in the money aspect alone - but in our implicite trust in their rightness as to their business actions. And money is business, my husband and & found that out the hard way, and it hurts to find out that the Society was a big business. And we're so proud of what the Society's lawyers accomplish in the Courts for freedom of rights. But if you ever have the misfortune to have their lawyers attention drawn to you because you question their businsess ethics - well, they'll treat you no different than any other business - and they act just like we all assume lawyers act when not on good behavior.

  So if this is business - I really don't want to lay down my life or give my heart to the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society CORPORATION. I believe, Biblically, we're to give our hearts to Jehovah and Jesus.

  Such big decisions, but perhaps we needed be in a big hurry. After all, "this generation" seems like it might last a bit longer than planned.
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  Paradise

  by Frenchy in

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  okay, for those of you who've read milton's paradise lost, how close/far do you think he was from what actually happened?.

  comments, please.

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  Get real, ya'll. There's a lot of us, particularily JW's, who haven't done a lot of deep literary reading.

  I got high browed sarcasm for even reading a Novel in public by some sisters....let alone real literature.

  Got some catching up to do.
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  The Eagle

  by Ben in

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  the eagle.

  today i saw an eagle who's wing was bent and could not fly.. and it saddened me to know this noble creature had been denied.

  its sole purpose in life, to soar upon the wind, free and high,.

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  waiting

  I know from the hundreds of comments and thousands of pages written of the anger and confusion towards them that they can seem as a cage.

  But really, anything can be our cage - and some persons just trade cages all their lives - and their continuing anger.

  Some people will never realize that they're in a cage, particularily if their protectors or captors take good care of them.

  I suppose it's all in the perspective. There are things worse, much worse, than the Society.

  Remember that old quote: I complained because I had no shoes, until I saw a man without feet.

  I'm really making no point - just did not have enough caffine tonite. Good Nite, all.

  By the way, the poetry was good and touching, just was rather sorrowful. People don't care to comment on sorrow in honesty - in my opinion.
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  Payback with Mel Gibson

  by waiting in

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  it's r rated and rough in the beginning.

  dark humor usually appeals to me, however.. i rented this long before i discovered the web, so i wasn't influenced by my computer.. i swear one of the movie writers had to be an xjw.

  notice that when gibson goes against organized crime - their headquarters is in a big beautiful, out of place hotel.

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  Dark & serious. I liked the Sixth Sense much better even though I had a bad reaction to it.
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  Ten Greatest Movies Ever

  by Seven in

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  what does this have to do with being a jehovah's witness?

  nothing.. the greatest movies ever made.

  1. the godfather.

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  I didn't say that I was deep......
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  Ten Greatest Movies Ever

  by Seven in

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  what does this have to do with being a jehovah's witness?

  nothing.. the greatest movies ever made.

  1. the godfather.

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  The Usual Suspects
  Buckeroo Bonzai in the Third Dimension
  What About Mary (caution)
  Inherit the Wind (original version)
  Arsnic & Old Lace (original version)
  Silverado - the only really good western
  Witness (and anything that has H. Ford in it)
  Night of the Living Dead (Best Gross Horror)
  Last of the Mohicans

  TV - Frasier