i'm sure alot of you have noticed, the influx of new jwn members with "postitions within the cong" this is amazing, i myself am still an m.s.
working to get removed.
lol my wife (who has been really supportive throughout my fade) asked my why i am doing i decided to fade?.
MS... I asked them to step down last week. Should be announced soon. Used to pioneer. Wanted to do circuit work sometime.
I have "woken up" quickly... Sigh. I know slow fade is the way, but its gonna be hard. Luckily most of the people in my hall are kind and friendly. I don't want to be a hypocritical social witness though haha. Still figuring it out.
feels real strange typing this.
i was what you all call born in.
i was happy growing up.
For study - 2 Samuel 12:15-18
“15 Then Nathan went to his own house. And Jehovah proceeded to deal a blow to the child that the wife of U·ri′ah had borne to David so that it took sick. 16 And David began to seek the true God in behalf of the boy, and David went on a strict fast and came in and spent the night and lay down on the earth. 17 So the older men of his house stood up over him to raise him up from the earth, but he did not consent and did not take bread in company with them. 18 And it came about on the seventh day that the child gradually died”
Rather than strike Joab a vicious man who committed three mentioned murders in the bible, Jehovah struck the baby. The penalty for murder is death. So Joab deserved to die for having Uriah killed. Plus, he had already had another murder at this point. But, instead an innocent was struck and suffered for seven days. No instant death, but a slow, sad, and painful one.
I do not believe God did that. Would Jesus do it? He is a mirror of his father. Would Jesus make a young one suffer seven days and die for something he didn't do? It is words of man...
i'm 19, and i'm still currently a jw.
i guess i'm a born-in, or whatever you guys call it.
i've had some serious issues with the faith at the moment, and sexuality is a huge part.
Since I. Was already feeling guilty for my feelings and loss of faith.... I wish my avatar didn't resemble the devil.
i'm 19, and i'm still currently a jw.
i guess i'm a born-in, or whatever you guys call it.
i've had some serious issues with the faith at the moment, and sexuality is a huge part.
Hang in there. Be patient. The older you get you realize how hurried you were when younger. There is no rush. Get sick tomorrow and stay home this mid-week. Just go slow and be positive. You have a whole life ahead of you. Slow. I'm brand new here but I can tell you I'd go slow.
Dont ever disrespect yourself by dignifying stupid old concepts on sexuality. Be you, and be happy. Good luck.
john 5:9, 10. how many do these number, this "crowd"?
it is because there is no set number.
a set time for such of that group to come in.
What happened here...
regarding the governing bodys new light relative to matthew 24:45-47, anointedjw.org recently said the following:.
this new light certainly poses a problem for the governing body.
perhaps this is another reason why they have not yet published a sober and scriptural xplanation of this new light.
I spoke to two elders. No problems at all. They thought it made more sense. My wife swears she always thought that anyway... Go on your WT library's. whole articles explaining how all anointed are slave even though they don't all print literature. Then, boom. All changes and its no big deal.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12/11/noahs-biblical-flood-actually-happened-says-famed-archeologist-who-found-the-titanic/ .
"the story of noah's ark and its associated flood continues to be retold to children and studied by theologians, alike.
while some dismiss it as a mere fable, others believe wholeheartedly that the event literally unfolded, with a massive down-pouring of water ravaging the earth at god's command.
Arbole - if god was going to make a flood and then use amazing magic powers to speed up time etc. then why did Noah spend 80 years doing the ark? Collecting food and such? Why not just use Holy Spirit to save all the animals and Noah? You can't invent fanciful magic to explain it. Either it happened and covered the earth and mountains and every animal died and it lasted 150 days or it didn't. IMHO.
usually i read through the study article for the week to see if there are good points of discussion with my family.. when i read this paragraph, i nearly fell off my chair.
this is complete and utter garbage.
i have had discussions with my wife and other family members who also agreed it was complete rubbish.
Why can you challenge and sometimes rarely win then?
feels real strange typing this.
i was what you all call born in.
i was happy growing up.
Thanks all. I appreciate it.
feels real strange typing this.
i was what you all call born in.
i was happy growing up.
Hi all. Feels real strange typing this. I was what you all call born in. I was happy growing up. No very bad experiences. I have served as a MS for a long time and never took steps to move on to Elder. Was afraid of that. I pioneered for several years. I was what most would think very strong in truth. I have had odd doubts or questions for years... Always push them out of my mind and pray about them. Last 3 years I started drinking to cope... Stopped drinking as of Jan 10. Confronted my doubts and feel good, but also sad and still confused. Odd mix of emotions. I'd like to explain my problems and how I got here. I am sure many have had some of the same thoughts.
The flood. When I realized a few weeks ago I couldn't in good conscience give a talk on it, I knew I had to step down.
How could Mt. Everest have been covered? How did coral and sea horses, and earth worms and animals indigenous to Madagascar or Australia survive?
how did all the races come from 3 sons of Noah? Why do spiders have webs if not to eat other insects? Skunks have scent, snakes venom, turtles shells. But in a few months in the new order they will all not eat each other?
Neanderthals - so the society admits they lived now but says they were another human race. The DNA doesn't match. Where did they come from? We can trace most of Adams sons to people in Middle East. Neanderthals came from Adam? This one got me over the edge I was stuck on. So they were intelligent, and loved and buried dead with flowers, and now to accommodate that we just call them humans.
Old Testament says Jah killed a child slowly on purpose to punish David and Bathsheba. Read the account our last weeks watchtower had.... Joab was a horrible person. He murdered 3 people in cold blood with no known punishment and lived till old age, but the baby had to die slowly over 7 days to punish David? "Jehovah struck the child". Why not just do it quick?
Elijah called down a she bear and it ripped apart 42 kids. It taught them and their parents to respect gods prophets? Give them leprosy for a day! God wouldn't do that, kill 42 over teenage stupidity.
Elijahs bones had left over Holy Spirit in them and resurrected a dead man... Why? Israelites went to war with the people of the promised land and died in the battles. Why? An angel could kill 185k, so why didn't the angels fight for them? It just doesn't make sense any longer.
I want God to be there. I pray still. But, I don't believe in the creation account as outlined in the bible. I do believe in natural selection and adaptation after studying it over past weeks. I just don't know where I am now. I'm confused and conflicted. I don't know how I'll go in service again. I am stepping down now for personal reasons from being an MS. I've shared much of my problems with my wife. She has some doubts, but not like mine. I can't hurt her. So taking it all very slow. Last few weeks have been very sad, but I've learned a lot. I was really hurt by the quote mining in the creation brochure and the 2 articles on Jerusalems destruction.
Well I know this is long and a little disjointed. I just wanted to share.
