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  Your own mortality, how do you cope with it?

  by CookieMonster in

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  i've been a lurker here and an inactive jw for a number of years.

  i've always had some annoying doubts but brushed it aside but over the last few years i've had time to "think" away from the wt.

  perhaps there is no paradise, maybe no god and this life is all there is.

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  Pickler

  Submitted my comments before your second comment came up! Glad to read you got the career Cookie Monster, good for you.

  i feel the same as you about everything, lots of wasted opportunities. Also DOC it's a tough journey, hang in there guys!
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  Your own mortality, how do you cope with it?

  by CookieMonster in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been a lurker here and an inactive jw for a number of years.

  i've always had some annoying doubts but brushed it aside but over the last few years i've had time to "think" away from the wt.

  perhaps there is no paradise, maybe no god and this life is all there is.

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  Pickler

  Hey Cookie Monster, you sound abut the same age as me. I was also told I'd never go to school/highschool/work & all those things have happened.

  My husband (non JW) has told me that I'm bad at long term planning, I can think about next week, month or perhaps next year, but, everything else just seems like a blur. I really find it hard to imagine the future, he thinks this is a leftover from the JW upbringing, and I think he's probably right.

  He has saved for retirement/superannuation all those sensible things. I find it almost like a fantasy, I feel like my brain can't grasp the concept.

  i feel the same about mortality, I'm not stressed about it,it just doesn't seem real.

  Anyway, I've been thinking about mortality a lot today, because a friends husband died yesterday. He was 40.

  So, enjoy what time you have is what I think we have to do.

  Even if you had a crappy time in your teens out door to door, or slaving at some horrendous quick build. Or a horrible 20s in Bethel....whatever, let it go & start having a good life now. And see a financial planner!!!!
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  pickler and brainmelt and julia orwell

  by SkyGreen in

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  ive sent you all pms.

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  pms... *snicker*.

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  Pickler

  Cheers Skygreen......I had pms last week......that's how I justify all that chocolate!
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  how do you cope with the stress of fading?

  by brainmelt in

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  i'm really struggling with it.

  i've been learning the ttatt for the past 6 months now and i've been inadvertantly fading - either one of us or the children have had coughs/colds/flu/chicken pox/stress over the past 3 months which has meant we've missed a lot of meetings and field service with good reason.

  we've only been out in service twice this year, so far no ones mentioned it to us but i'm waiting for our group overseer to bring it up anytime soon.

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  Pickler

  Hey brain melt, I'm sorry your going through this stress, but, once you know TATT, you can never go back & "unknow" it.

  Your kids will give you strength, look at them & feel really proud of yourself, look at what you are doing. You are raising children to be mentally free, you know what a gift that is, you know this mental crap that we all carry around with us will stop with you....they will be free.

  It will get easier & easier as long as you remember that & as you watch your kids embrace their lives without fear, you are breaking a cycle!

  Time to look after yourself though, that's for sure. I practise yoga & meditation. It really helps me. Maybe it will work for you, maybe something else?

  Whatever it is, don't feel guilty. Look at the times you used to go to meetings & do something else that you enjoy instead, take a class, go to the gym, go for a jog.....possibilities are endless......

  good luck to you brain melt, don't worry too much & don't feel you have to explain yourself to others yet either. Just make sure you get some pleasure in every day, turn your phone on silent & enjoy!
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  How Many Here Have Ever Smoked Pot or Tobacco?

  by minimus in

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  am i the only one who has done neither?.

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  Pickler

  Your welcome IST4....let me know how this turns out for you....
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  When You Learned TTATT, the truth about the truth(tm) How Did It Make You Feel?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  i felt stunned.

  i felt betrayed.. just lois.

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  Pickler

  Shocked, and really angry & just so sad.

  Even though I've been out for so long, a part of me still believed that it might be true. Or at least I really truly believed that those at the top believed it was true. The things that I've read here about bethel, and the deliberate lies & coverups in the literature.

  What has struck me is that the price paid by the rank & file has been so high, from wasted lives to actual lost lives, like those poor Malawi brothers & sisters. And people who had to go to jail, or stay with an abusive husband, or never talk to their families......appalling.
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  How Many Here Have Ever Smoked Pot or Tobacco?

  by minimus in

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  am i the only one who has done neither?.

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  Pickler

  I started smoking in my early 20s. It was so easy because I'd been working in a smoking office, everyone had an ashtray on their desks. I'd been breathing it in for so long, that when I finally had a cigarette it felt natural.

  biggest mistake ever, it was so hard to quit 6 years later, I found the cravings lasted for years.

  I smoked other substances (pot? Does that mean hash? Like the resin that you crumble?) for a few years. I haven't for a long time now, sometimes I miss it. But a nice glass of red is just as good. Now a hash brownie would be spectacular!
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  shunning and jw funerals

  by man in black in

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  when a jw from your area dies, do you attend the visitation or funeral ?.

  since i have da'ed myself, several people that i have known for years have died, and i have attended both the visitation, and or funeral.. but everytime, i have been treated like i don't even exist.

  just trying to follow normal human emotions, by attending and showing my feelings to the surviving family has been alot like running into a brick wall.

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  Pickler

  Hey MIB,

  I've never been to a JW funeral, but I've been to several non JW funerals. They were generally very nice & loving.

  I was actually thinking the other day that when my mother dies, she will have a JW funeral, and I probably won't go. Because I'd have to sit at the back & be shunned, and I refuse to do that. But, then I thought, well, she may already be dead, I wouldn't know, we haven't spoken in years.

  i know that feeling you mentioned, being treated like you don't even exist. That feeling made me scared to go out in public.

  Still though, you are the normal one, but even trying to be normal around JWs is so hard.

  i think JW life is very controlled - look at the meetings, studies, routines. I think JWs react poorly whenever they are confronted by anything they perceive as threatening.

  I think JW panic internally when DF/DA persons appear at the hall, partly due to the whole apostate horror, partly because they are afraid of being judged by others if they are seen to be talking to the DF/DA person.
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  Governing Body Member Talking To Psychiatrist About Being In The Faithful & Discreet Slave Delusion

  by frankiespeakin in

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  psyc: so how have you come to this conclusion about being what you call a faithful slave of jesus christ?.

  morris: well you see jesus gave a parable that about this slave and we members of the governing body have strong evidence that we are that slave and that the parable in matthew 24 about the slave is prophetic and it refers to us.. psy: but that is just a parable, how do you know it is prophetic?.

  morris: well first you need faith in jehovah before before i can even begin to explain to you how it all works.

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  Psyc: So those who were over zealous would include writters for your books and magazines?

  Morris: Yes but also many reader came to that conclusion as well so it wasn't just our writting department.

  Psyc: "Evidently". But weren't those readers who were wrong getting their information from your organization?

  Morris: Yes. Evidently.

  This stuff just made me spray a mouthful of coffee, almost wrecking my iPad!!! Damn you Frankie, you are hilarious.
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  Edward Dunlap Talks About The 1980 Witch Hunt At Bethel and The Faithful And Discrete Slave

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etghbmuurwg.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkgmfqab2m8.

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  Pickler

  I listened to these, thanks for posting.

  I know it's off topic, but, it really struck me......you listen and it's just...."brothers, brothers, brothers, brothers".......the WTBTS it's just men isn't it?

  So male dominated, in that second recording its like he's talking about a world inhabited by men only, which I suppose spiritually it was.

  but, there were women in the annointed class, but not in the GB.