Posts by Rattigan350

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Is this new donation arrangement for real?

by nugget in

just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

Rattigan350

"I haven't donated a cent in over a year."

Oh really? I haven't donated in 14 years. I don't see why people still do.

Oh, they believe that it is part of 'keep seeking first the kingdom'. But how is it that they draw the connection between the congregation and the kingdom?

What recently upset me is that there is a letter on the information board about how they have raised over 3 million for the West Georgia assembly hall. No work has been done on that yet. They are just raising money and making plans. But now that the circuit assemblies are 1 day. There is no need for a new assembly hall. But people just follow along and donate and get excited. I read a story in the newspaper about how a local county has an animal shelter that has to kill animals because they don't have enough resources to care for them. Animal shelters can use that money more than assembly halls. There is an ad on this page after I posted this message for the ASPCA and its need for donations.

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Possibly the creepiest thing I have ever seen.

by DATA-DOG in

http://www.freeimgshost.com/fullsize/7bhfbsjycap9gurjx8e4.jpg.

http://www.freeimgshost.com/fullsize/q2ez9si8kwcze4h7pft.jpg.

http://www.freeimgshost.com/fullsize/0a2s84sh0thc27bo11tr.jpg.

Rattigan350

There is nothing creepy about the pictures. They are just the 4 horsemen. Nothing creepy about that.

Creepy means getting chills or fears about scary unknown things.

The 4 horsemen have been going on for 100 years and affecting everyone.

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My personal movie review: Darren Aronofsky's NOAH

by Terry in

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friends

noah, my movie review.

you may have already judged this film and you've never seen it!

like many of its critics, you think you know what you're going to see and .

Rattigan350

Does Noah sing?

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Jesus had to die? Really?

by punkofnice in

i admit i no longer believe in god and holy books.. thinking of the made up 'universal sovereignty' thing, surely if god existed in the way the holy books describe him then he could have thought of something better than humankind suffering thousands of years and the slaughter of jesus?.

couldn't god have said: 'well, satan is a very naughty boy but you all know how great i am so we can end it now.

i will lovingly kill satan and his mates and that's that.

Rattigan350

Here we are in the Congregational book study, studying about how powerful Jehovah is, but yet he bows to the challenges of other spirit beings to create a test and then when the test fails, to make a punishment and then to create a redemption and to have his son do that. All that for a sense of justice.

It is said that Love is his greatest attribute, but none of that is loving.

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Great Crowd is NOT under the New Covenant...Where does it say this?

by Christ Alone in

i was wondering if there was anywhere someone could point to in the bible for the watchtower belief that the great crowd is not included in the new covenant.

i know that this is their line of thinking when it comes to jesus being mediator.

they say that jesus is only mediator of the new covenant and since the gc is not under the new covenant, jesus is not specifically a mediator to them.

Rattigan350

Wolfman, you highlighted a person's riddles. And that does not tell why someone would want to go to heaven.

It's this being enamored with Jesus that you are professing. People just want to be with Jesus just like Catholics want to be with the Pople. What do they do, say hello and shake his hand and ask for a blessing.

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Why don't Born Again Christians include themselves as "Cults"?

by booker-t in

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when i see or hear born again christians calling mormons, jws, 7th day adventists, jews etc; cults i always have wondered is that not the pot calling the kettle black?

i just amazes me how so much in denial bacs(born again christians) are.

they love to condemn and throw stones at others but they will never, never, and i mean never label themselves as cults even though they have some of the weirdest beliefs.

Rattigan350

Perry said:"The born again person experiences a release of the "grip" of sin on his entire being"

No, it is not about born again experience. It is that you are making different decisions and you attribute that to religion.

Non-born agains make those same decisons without the drug of religion.

Go sober and free of the drug of religion.

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Order in the universe

by Rattigan350 in

this topic was covered in book study last night.

some commented that the universe is ordered and the stars don't collide.. that has nothing to do with order.

it is more to do with that there is more space between the stars and planets and things go between them if they were in the same area.. and do they not consider that the many things that colliided with the moon to make those crators?.

Rattigan350

This topic was covered in book study last night. Some commented that the universe is ordered and the stars don't collide.

That has nothing to do with order. It is more to do with that there is more space between the stars and planets and things go between them if they were in the same area.

And do they not consider that the many things that colliided with the moon to make those crators?

The comment was made that since the Bible says that none were missing to mean that the stars don't collide or disappear. But that does not mean that. It means that Jehovah knows where they are, even if they do collide or Super nova.

Why the need to defend God?

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I dont care if i Die at armageddon if.....

by Jon Preston in

liverpool won the league!

:-).

Rattigan350

If the dead are not conscious, what difference does it make if one dies at A. or anything else?

dead is dead.

You are not even going to know that you are dead after Armageddon.

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FW: WHAT A SISITER SACRIFICED TO SERVE JEHOVAH

by moomanchu in

witnoid e-mails goin around.. all i can say is wtf.. japan assembly experience.

date: tue, 22 jan 2008 15:58:51 -0500. .

convention experience from japan!

Rattigan350

I was thinking about Urban Legends and looked up this story.

While it may be true that this man was part of a Japanese Mafia of whatever name.

and it may be true that he was a harsh man and that mafia mains people.

and it may be true that this man had a daughter that was asked to study.

What I call BS on is this part:

"the price that she would have to pay in order to study would be to have one of her fingers cut off. She tried to reason with him but soon realized that this would be the only way she would be able to study. So, she agreed! He had the first finger of the right hand cut off. She began her study."

Picture this: She tells the sister who wants to study with her that those are the terms, and the sister agrees? and says "when and where can you study"???????? Really? The sister is even more cruel than the father.

Even if she did not tell those terms to the sister and then started to study, the sister would have seen the finger cut off and said "what happened?" After hearing the story, a sister would have insisted that she move out and live with her. Instead she invites her to the meetings and accepts getting another finger cut off?

she progressed to the point of baptism. The scenario was the same as before. He told her that she knew the price, and the ring finger of the same hand was cut off. Yet, she was grateful to Jehovah for allowing her to be baptized, and gave no thought to the sacrifice she made."

And the sister and the elders gave no thought to it either and allowed it? Just to get an increase in the baptism number and publisher number. With friends like that, who needs enemies.

Whatever happened to people hiding Witnesses in the attics and other hideouts in Nazi times and other persecution? But they allow this woman to go through that unnecessarily? She didn't have to tell her father anything.

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Do you think marrying an unbeliever could be a disfellowshipping offense in the future?

by loading in

any thoughts?.

Rattigan350

How would they know if the person is an unbeliever?

Tell them that the person is from another city in another circuit. Then if they ask for the publisher record card, state that the person was inactive for a while and it got lost.