Posts by Rattigan350

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WT's Crazed Obsession!

by JW GoneBad in

i have recently read for the umpteenth time the 4 gospel accounts.

what caught my attention this time around was how many times jesus makes mention of the endeared expression father (with f in caps) when referring to his god as recorded by matthew, mark, luke and john.. what was also interesting by comparison is how little jesus actually makes reference to his father on a first name basis (jehovah) in these four books.. note my findings with the help of the comprehensive concordance:.

jehovah: matthew 11 times mark 8 times luke 26 times john 4 times (total 49 times).. father: mathew 43 times mark 4 times luke 21 times john 119 times (total 187 times).. .

Rattigan350

@designer stubble:

You are aware that "Jehovah" does not appear in original text of the New Testament at all. All 237 times have been added by the WTBTS

You are incorrect.

Matt 4:10 NIV "Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only." The footnote reads Deut 6:13

Deut 6:13 ASV "Thou shalt fear Jehovah thy God; and him shalt thou serve, and shalt swear by his name." The tetragrammaton does appear there.

So, if the NIV is correct, then Jesus lied because what the NIV records was not written. What was written was "Yĕhovah". Since Jesus gave correct quotes and not lied, he used God's name.

So what appears in the original text of the NT does not matter. What Jesus said matters. And he said correct quotes.

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The new light changes from the draw close to Jehovah printed form vs online form.

by EndofMysteries in

the changes are in paragraph 7 and 8 in the first chapter of draw close to jehovah book, and i fail to see any doctrine change, only the gb trying to cover up possible mistakes they've made and potential embarrassment of worldly sources knowing what jehovah's name means while they were wrong.

let's examine this new light they quote with this letter.

let's see a word for word comparison on what many will be talking about in meetings about the wonderful new light and evidence that they are the faithful slave...... .

Rattigan350

Did the GB never read Ex 6:3, in their own bible it says this,,,"And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as God Almighty, but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them."

The theory is that he informed Adam and Eve of his name and they knew it from on down to Jacob, but he did not make the meaning and power known.

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2014 -2015 District Convention Theme - unofficial-

by WatchTower87 in

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unofficial theme:.

-the end (of watchtower) is near!

- lets kingdom come bis.

Rattigan350

The theme is "Trust in Me"

Kaa

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Where is the MONEY REALLY GOING? -- Special Assembly Days, etc

by EyeDrEvil in

i have always wondered why it cost so much to "rent" the space used for local special assembly days and circuit assemblies.... in our case, the society built a large assembly hall, on donated farm land (= free), in the middle of some corn fields 20 miles outside of columbus, ohio... the property has a couple of apartments where some of the travelling overseers live, who help with the upkeep of the building.

cleaning the building was taken care of because of our "privilege" to go out the day before the assembly to get it in good shape (free housekeeping and maintenance work).. so, the society owns the building.

it was built on free land.

Rattigan350

Ok, question. It is stated here that Assembly deficits will cause a letter to the congregations to make it up and if the congregations don't cover the CO's expenses then he reports it to Brooklyn.

What then happens to the congregations if they don't do anything?

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What is the Real Financial Cost of a Circuit Assembly?

by FairMind in

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my congregation along with about thirty others attends circuit assemblies at a facility that is owned by the organization (a converted school).

this building also has a section that serves as a kh for three local congregations.

i have noticed that when the financial reports are read at the assemblies that the expense (which is not detailed) is always around $4,000.

Rattigan350

But that's ignoring the real cash cow, and the real reason for these events: the $3000-4000 donation generated at every assembly day.

Yes, that is the real reason, and what if they did not meet the amount to even break even after that donation. They would have to stop making those donations. What would the society do if those donations to the WWW stop and only assembly expenses are covered? They would stop the assemblies. Close the unprofitable stores, like any other business. The blessings of a bad economy.

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Is there Racial harmony among the JWs?

by Amazing in

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when i joined the jws, racial issues were not really discussed much, other than some mention in the material given to me during my bible study in the "truth" book.

our kingdom hall had only one dark skinned individual, who is portguese, and one of the anointed.

i believe that he is now deceased.

Rattigan350

Smiddy said:

Racial harmony ? segregation ? Are those two terms compatible ? In America before the 1960`s when segregation was enforced , JW`s complied ,KH`s had segregated people , blacks in their halls , whites in their halls never the two to meet .A white man could not go to a KH with the blacks , and a black man could not walk into a KH full of whites .And jehovahs witnesses whatever colour made sure that never happened. Why ? because it is the law they said. We must pay ceasers thing to ceaser but Gods things to God . Hang on, didn`t they break the law when it suited them to get their way and proclaim they were champions of freedom ? in their going from door to door , witnessing etc.? They broke existing laws.

This is something I have heard and if I was living in that time, I would go to any KH that I wanted to, to support my brothers. Being white, I like going to the predominately black congregations because the rebel in me likes the defiance of segregation.

But other than this I don't see racism in the organization. But that was not racism in itself.

Today there are even black churches that advertise themselves as African American and black only or white only.

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Why do Jehovah Witnesses hate when you bring up going to Jesus?

by sheila wright in

Rattigan350

Because it is emotion based. And emotion does not belong in religion.

And because Jehovah's Witnesses have come to Jesus.

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is all religon crap?

by thesaint in

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like jw are crap is there any religon dat is atally conneced to god?.

Rattigan350

Yes.

I wish they would repeal the first amendment and ban all religion.

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Understand: Our salvation is not Jesus' primary concern

by pixel in

...at least that's what the sunday study said:.

"at the same time, we need to understand that our salvation is not jesus' primary concern.

his main purpose from the beginning to the end of his earthly ministry was to work for the sanctification and glory of his father's name".

Rattigan350

The unsaved world tarnishes Jehovah's name because it is imperfect and flawed.

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Understand: Our salvation is not Jesus' primary concern

by pixel in

...at least that's what the sunday study said:.

"at the same time, we need to understand that our salvation is not jesus' primary concern.

his main purpose from the beginning to the end of his earthly ministry was to work for the sanctification and glory of his father's name".

Rattigan350

I agree with that Watchtower and the two scriptures the OP quoted, also support that.

"Savior of the world." sanctifies Jehovah's name, because the unsaved world tarnishes Jehovah's name.

John 3:16 is not relevant to this issue.

And Jesus would use Jehovah's name. Since he quoted the scriptures that had his name in, it would be a sin for him to change it and not quote it.

Don't throw out the 'baby with the bathwater'. Just because you don't like some things that are taught, does not mean that all things that

are taught are wrong.