Posts by Rattigan350

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WT Mar 15th 2012 - 144,000 no longer a literal number?

by dozy in

reading idly through this magazine , i read the study article "rejoicing in our hope" which discusses the two "hopes" according to the wtbts ie heaven & earth.. a couple of points were of interest:.

(1) absolutely no mention at all of the 144,000 or rev 14. usually an article like this would be filled with references , but it isn't even mentioned.

it does discuss the "limited number" , but only in contrast with the "no man can number" great crowd.. (2) a much more laid back attitude towards the two hopes.

Rattigan350

Why do people keep concerning themselves over anointing and going to heaven. Neither are something one has control over.

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Has Gambling Become A Conscience Issue Among JWs?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

the reason i ask is that i have a coupe of cousins who are still jws who have gone gambling in casinos with us.

i have a brother-in-law who openly brags about his "perfect" blackjack strategy he employs in vegas when he's in town.. i know that growing up as a jw, gambling of any kind was a dfing offense.. is my jw family simply more liberal than most, or has there been a subtle shift in this area since i've been out?.

Rattigan350

Gambling isn't the DFing offense, "making a practice of" gambling is.

No, losing is.

Winning and being intelligent about it, would be the opposite.

I don't see why anyone would tell anyone else about it. Always keep winning quiet.

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The official list of things for which you may be disfellowshipped

by slimboyfat in

from the secret elders' book which states that the list "of course" is "not comprehensive".

nevertheless here are the acts that they deem worthy of specifying as being possible grounds for chucking people out:.

murdermanslaughter such as killing someone while breaking traffic lawsattempting suicidesexual intercourse with someone other than your spouseanal sex with someone other than your spouseoral sex with someone other than your spousesexual stimulation of the genitals of someone other than your spousedelay in reporting a rape?

Rattigan350

To be fair, many of those things are illegal such as murder and manslaughter and the child things under 10-14, #25,

34,35,37,39, 40, 48

"#19: Fondling breasts without the intention of marrying So if we're engaged, it's ok! "
Technically if two are engaged, then it is not fornication for anything since it would be done for love and not for pornea.

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Do You Fully Support "Obamacare"?

by minimus in

jw
friends

is it everything you thought it would be?

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are you happy that this law is being initiated?.

Rattigan350

It does not address the real problem, it just spreads the costs around.

The real problem is that doctors and hospitals charge too darn much.

There are reasons for that:

1. student loans they have to pay off.

2. Malpractice insurance.

3. supply and demand.

1. Government should do something about the cost of education.

2. Government should do something about lawsuits and malpractice insurance.

3. People shouldn't go to the doctor so much. Just a little squirt of bactine and everything is fine. With demand down, prices will drop.

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Are you going to heaven?

by compound complex in

greetings:are you convinced (with all due humility, of course) of your future destination according to religious beliefs?

perhaps you'd simply like to journey through outer space, but return eventually to our beautiful planet, earth .

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Rattigan350

There is no evidence that anyone has consciousness in the spirit realm; otherwise why hasn't anything been done to the earthly realm?

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Why Is Stealing From Local Municipalities Not A Sin To JWs? Construction For Example?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

when i begin to think about jehovah's witnesses and stealing from cesar my mind begin's to spin.

last year while walking through a very popular elder's house he showed me how he had doubled the house from the original blue print plans.. .

the inspectors of the county are incompetent or received a bribe, how can you add 1500 sq ft without the building inspector catching the error?

Rattigan350

Rattigan who is suppose to pay for the Military? Schools for kids ages 5-18? Provide loans for students to grow the Economy with Hi-Tech Jobs, adding revenue stream. Should the Government collect taxes to pay the injured military soldiers or should we toss them on the street? What is your opinion of Anarchy, good or bad?

The military and people who work for the govenment earn their money. But I'm just saying that if a business or person had a good business year, then the government would demand more of that through income taxes. But what did the government do to earn it? If someone won millions in lottery, the government gets a big cut. For what? What did they do to earn it?

If I make a million, then Coca Cola doesn't automatically get some of it, but the government does. Why? The government should be like a business and those who use it should fund it.

There doesn't need to be a military; why can't everyone just get along? (Vote for Rodney King.)

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For All Jehovah's Witnesses: When did Jesus begin ruling as King?

by Darth Rutherford in

to all jehovah's witnesses, here is an easy question you can answer... when did jesus begin ruling as king?.

watch tower answers:.

following his resurrection, jesus ascended to heaven and waited at gods right hand until 1914 to begin ruling as king.

Rattigan350

The seven times put upon the throne of Jehovah ended in 1914, 2520 years after it started in 607. Thus when the kings in the line of David lost their sovereignty, then there was a pause for 7 times, then the only real king who was destined to rule, took power.

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Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

by StoneWall in

here's a link but there is already many newscast carrying the story.. .

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says?lite.

edited to add: for any that don't know rick warren here's a quick copy and paste from that news article.

Rattigan350

They say it is mental illness. But why does it always have to lead to destruction?

I say it is because he believed he was going to heaven. Why not die and speed up the process?

False religion destroys.

Or maybe he was secretly gay and couldn't deal with his dad as pastor.

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Do WT Bible NWT pick and choose word meanings to suit their agenda?

by *lost* in

can anyone offer thoughts on this.

any examples.

i just discovered this.. nwt v kjb isaaiah 14;12. kjv - uses lucifer.

Rattigan350

The NWT is the most accurate translation and the translators did not have an agenda other than that.

The critics only don't like how their precious trinity is not being promoted by it. Well, too bad.

It is not promoted by the NWT because it is not true.

Lucifer is not the proper translation of that and you should do research into that.

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Moses and his God directed mass genocide.

by AMO in

was wondering what modern day christians take is on the slaughter of hundreds of thousands perhaps millons, on his god directed journey to the promised land.???.

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amo.

Rattigan350

My take? I don't see the problem with it. They all would be dead by now anyway, so what is the difference?

IF they had not died, they would have multiplied and the population would be so much more today.

That change in history would have a great effect today.