The official list of things for which you may be disfellowshipped

by slimboyfat 80 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    From the secret elders' book which states that the list "of course" is "not comprehensive". Nevertheless here are the acts that they deem worthy of specifying as being possible grounds for chucking people out:

    1. Murder
    2. Manslaughter such as killing someone while breaking traffic laws
    3. Attempting suicide
    4. Sexual intercourse with someone other than your spouse
    5. Anal sex with someone other than your spouse
    6. Oral sex with someone other than your spouse
    7. Sexual stimulation of the genitals of someone other than your spouse
    8. Delay in reporting a rape? (extremely obscure wording, not sure what is meant at all)
    9. Associating with disfellowshipped nonrelatives
    10. Child sexual abuse
    11. Fondling breasts of a child
    12. Making an immoral proposal to a child
    13. Voyeurism relating to children
    14. Indecent exposure to children
    15. Dating when not scripturally free to marry
    16. Staying all night in a house with someone of the oppostie sex under improper circumstances
    17. Staying all night with a person of the same sex who is known to be a homosexual under improper circumstances
    18. Fondling the breasts of someone you are not married to on numerous occasions
    19. Fondling breasts without the intention of marrying
    20. Telephone sex
    21. Cybersex
    22. Habitually viewing pornography that includes sadism, bondage, rape, brutalising of women, or child pornography
    23. Habitually or publically smoking cigarettes
    24. Extreme physical uncleanness
    25. Using addictive drugs
    26. Celebrating religious holidays
    27. Bowing before religious alters or images
    28. Singing religious songs and joining in prayers of other religions
    29. Persistently contradicting the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses
    30. Openly questioning organizational arrangements
    31. Continuing in employment under a promoter of false worship for more than six months
    32. Practising spiritism
    33. Using images in false religious worship
    34. A pattern of drunkennnes
    35. A single drunken bout that gains noteriety (known in Scots as a pure bender)
    36. Eating so much food that you feel sick
    37. Stealing
    38. Malicious lying
    39. Fraud
    40. Slander
    41. Strongly insulting and abusing someone
    42. Persistently using sexually explicit swear words orally or in written form
    43. Persistently and greedily gambling
    44. Contining to work at a gambling establishment for more than six months
    45. Displaying greed and extortion in negotiating a bride price
    46. Refusing to provide for your wife and children (apprently this is a sin that can only apply to males)
    47. Fits of anger
    48. Violence
    49. Taking up boxing

    What a weird and haphazard list!

    Interesting how long it takes them to specify something pretty basic such as stealing (included in the ten commandments after all), as compared with their convoluted laws on staying overnight with somebody and fondling breasts, for God's sake. (Which was curiously not mentioned in the ten commandments at all)

    And strange irregularities too. Voyeurism and indecent exposure are mentioned in relation to children, but what about when the victims are adults, does that not count? It doesn't say.

    Does anyone know of somebody getting disfellowshipped for reasons other than those specified in the list?

  • sir82
    sir82

    To be fully complete, you'd need to add the list of things that result in "disassociating oneself" (i.e., things that the WTS is afraid of being sued over, or afraid of losing prestige or influence over, so they didn't make the DF list):

    -- Joining the military

    -- Accepting a blood transfusion

    -- Voting

    -- Probably a few others

    As I recall, even those things are vaguely worded and semi-hidden in the near-meaningless phrase "non-neutral activities" or some such.

    There are few things in life more terrifying to consider than a religion run by lawyers, which is what the WTS has evolved into.

  • cobaltcupcake
    cobaltcupcake

    Waaaiiit a minute, here! What the heck happened to skydiving and car racing?

    Now, this made me laugh out loud: Eating so much food that you feel sick. Who's gonna police that one? My guess is that no one has ever been DF'd for that since many elders are overindulgers themselves.

    Extreme physical uncleanness - Never heard of this one.

    Why so much focus on the breasts? What about male naughty bits? Is that okay?

    I don't see "sexting" mentioned. Hard to keep up, fellas?

  • drewcoul
    drewcoul

    Telephone sex???? Cybersex??? LOL So two young JW's are going to get married, and they're talking on the phone. He says how he is looking forward to their wedding night, and how he can't wait to finally see her naked. He's so worked up that......well, you know. He has to report it to the elders and could get disfellowshipped for being so turned on by his soon to be wife?????

    I only know of one person who recited the limeric "The Man From Nantucket." He was a regular pioneer and someone ratted him out and he got removed from the pioneer list and privately reproved.

  • drewcoul
    drewcoul

    Voting is a disfellowshipping offense? It used to be a conscience matter. Just in a fairly recent QFR it stated that what happens in a voting booth is between that person and Jehovah.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    #41: Strongly insulting and abusing someone

    In that case, most elders should be shown the door!

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    #31: Continuing in employment under a promoter of false worship for more than six months

    #44: Contining to work at a gambling establishment for more than six months

    So six months is acceptable, but six months and a day is a disfellowshipping offense.

    These guys make the Pharisees look like bloody wankers!

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    #18: Fondling the breasts of someone you are not married to on numerous occasions

    How many is "numerous"?

    Isn't "one" a number?

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    #19: Fondling breasts without the intention of marrying

    So if we're engaged, it's ok!

    Awesome!!!

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    #20: Telephone sex
    #21: Cybersex

    I'm surprised they haven't added "sexting" yet.

    No doubt that'll be in the revised edition.

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