Posts by Tameria2001

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How do they decide when to get rid of certain information in their publications?

by Tameria2001 in

i was recently watching a video on youtube and on the john cedars channel, he was talking about how the watchtower has discontinued quite a few of their books from back when i was still active.

so it got me to thinking about how do they decide that certain teaching doesn't fit them anymore.

so i was wondering does anyone have any ideas on how they come to that decision because if any of their members bring up something, that person can be disfellowshipped?.

Tameria2001

I was recently watching a video on Youtube and on the John Cedars channel, he was talking about how the Watchtower has discontinued quite a few of their books from back when I was still active. So it got me to thinking about how do they decide that certain teaching doesn't fit them anymore. So I was wondering does anyone have any ideas on how they come to that decision because if any of their members bring up something, that person can be disfellowshipped?

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Engaged and having a baby, I’m not JW fiancé is

by Viarayne in

i’m not interested in becoming a jehovah’s witness but have nothing against people who are, or whatever religion someone chooses to follow for that matter.

i am here because i have some questions regarding my family and i. .

my fiancé stopped going to church prior to us meeting.

Tameria2001

To a JW, a worldly person is someone who is not a member of the Jehovah's Witness. It does not matter who they are or what they are doing in life.

What is his reason for wanting to go back? Most of the time it is pressure from JW relatives and the threat of losing those loved ones.

Please do plenty of research on this religion, your child's mental well being will depend on it.

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Introduction

by inactive1 in

i have been in crisis regarding the international problem of the way child abuse has been handled in the wt organization.

i have been dealing with serious health issues that made it necessary for me to go on permanent disability since 2015. since then my health has gotten worse making it nearly impossible to attend meetings.

in this period i have received no spiritual or other help of any kind.

Tameria2001

I was in a similar situation 18 years ago, but it was involving my son. He spent a week in the hospital, and the had to spend the next month recuperating at home. He was not allowed to be around anyone other than the immediate family, to give his immune system a chance to recover without the dangers of catching something. Not once did anyone call or stop by to see how we were doing, not even to bring us spiritual food. The only thing they said to me was that I had better make it to the upcoming district convention.

To make a long story short, I decided to finally get in and research everything I could find regarding the Watchtower and was quite shocked about what I had learned. Also, I found someone (she was not a JW) that I could ask quite a few of those nagging questions and got answers. By the time I was finished, it was like a ten-ton boulder had been lifted off of my shoulders.

Something I want to mention to you, you said you are dealing with depression. There are quite a few JWs who while they were involved with the organization they were also dealing with mental health issues. Around a year after getting away, they found that those issues had cleared up, and they were the care of their own doctors.

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Do You See JWs Going From House to House Anymore?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i used to see them in my neighborhood or while driving.

there is a hispanic congregation nearby.

i used to see witnesses out all the time, some even doing the slow pioneer shuffle.

Tameria2001

My husband just saw them at our neighbor's door only yesterday. I've already warned her a while back about them.

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Are there any JW songs that you HATE?

by neat blue dog in

you're probably thinking 'all of them', and it's true that the songbook is riddled with wrong stuff .

but are there any songs in particular that irk your moral sensibilities?.

for me it would be song #26, "you did it for me".

Tameria2001

All of them. A few years back I was searching for national anthems of different countries. I don't remember which ones I found, but I had found where the Watchtower had used the exact same music as some of those national anthems as their kingdom melodies. They changed the words, but it was the exact same music. I'm surprised that they didn't get copyright infringement, they are always pulling it on other folks.

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Does It Bother You That Christian Churches and Christian People Are Being Persecuted and Killed?

by minimus in

jw
friends

even if your fed up with “religion” , i don’t want to see christians persecuted.

it’s happening in many parts of the world and it’s so wrong.

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Tameria2001

I disagree with the torture and killing of anyone regardless of who they are. What I would prefer to see, instead of that, would be the religious leaders be held accountable, with prison time, for their crimes against humanity, and for everyone to see them for what they truely are...charlatans.

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Some Religions Make Their Women Fat!

by new boy in

jw
friends

sad but true.

my ex-girlfriend was raised mormon.

so i went to a couple of her church services.

Tameria2001

So, why don't Witnesses disfellowship/shun those who eat fast food and are obese?

Simple, they would lose nearly every single member of the JWs, including the governing body.

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Slavery - ancient

by joey jojo in

i have been listening to podcasts by dan carlin and his excellent series on persia and the spartans, called king of kings.. its a refreshing way to hear unbiased accounts of history, untainted by religious beliefs.. a part of the podcast dealt with the jews but it put into perspective their place in world history and events.

pretty much just another tribe- sometimes rebellious, allowed to exist under the rule of a major power, allowed to worship their own gods exactly like the other tribes around them.. another part that caught my interest was the account of slavery and it made me think about the way wt and other christian religions have tried to reconcile the idea that it was ok in those days for jews to own slaves because they had laws to protect the slaves.. the podcast made me realise a lot of apologists of slavery obviously forget how a person becomes a slave in the first place.

apologists like wt say it was ok because it was part of the economy and the way life was, which totally skips over the important part.. after a war, when most of the men were killed or wounded on the battlefield by the winning side, whoever was left, men, women and preferably young virgins, were taken back to the homeland of the victors and sold at the slave markets.

Tameria2001

I feel the same way as Stealth, besides the slavery that was condoned in the bible. There are many accounts of it talking about the exact same thing as what the Nazis did. The Nazis made their victims sound like anything other than human. A while back I watched a few of the Nazis propaganda videos on the History Channel, and how they were comparing the Jews to rats. It was something that turned my stomach, but I watched it, to understand history a little better. While watching it, I noticed the similarity in the Old Testament of the Bible. It was when God was using a group of people to go in and slaughter the inhabitants who were already living in the land that was being stolen, under the guise of living in God's promised lands. They view those people they were killing and forcing into slavery as anything but human.

Nine times out of ten it is religion behind it when it comes to murder and slavery. The ironic part now is my JW relatives don't have anything to do with me because I decided I didn't want to be a JW, and my Christian relatives (those who are not JWs, but Baptist, Luthern, and other Christian faiths) don't have anything to do with me because I don't go to church either. I am VERY thankful that I got my sons away from those toxic teaching before it could do anything to harm their thinking. They are very familiar with the bible, and they too view it the same as I and don't want any part of it either, but they are able to hold their own when it comes to debating. I made sure of this so they don't get swept up into some cult (JW or not).

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Some Religions Make Their Women Fat!

by new boy in

jw
friends

sad but true.

my ex-girlfriend was raised mormon.

so i went to a couple of her church services.

Tameria2001

I figured out a while back why some people are just too fat, and it is one little thing. I'll explain.

My mother became a JW back in the early 1970s, and at the time her weight was average, not skinny, nor fat, or obese. The longer she was in that religion she just got bigger and bigger. I haven't seen her in the last 18 years, but I have had relatives give me information on her from time to time. She has gained so much weight now that she is in a wheelchair. I know why, and it is not because of some medical reason that would cause it, but rather she is attempting to kill herself by food. A few years back when I was still a JW, my husband and I went to visit her, and we went to the local KFC, all you can eat buffet. The amount of food my mother took was astronomical. She consumed 3 heaping plates of food and one heaping plate of dessert. It was enough food that my husband and I could have spent the next four days in complete meals. I know my mother has some mental issues, but she refuses to get any help for what is bothering her. She has said on a number of times she is waiting for Jehovah to take over, and then he will give her a perfect body, so what's the point of caring now.

The main problem with those involved in religion (cult or not) and don't keep their weight in check or care how big they get is because they all think they will get a second opportunity to have their god fix it by giving them a perfect body. I too thought this same way for many years, and I'm paying the price now. My weight is a constant struggle that I am always dealing with.

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Slavery - ancient

by joey jojo in

i have been listening to podcasts by dan carlin and his excellent series on persia and the spartans, called king of kings.. its a refreshing way to hear unbiased accounts of history, untainted by religious beliefs.. a part of the podcast dealt with the jews but it put into perspective their place in world history and events.

pretty much just another tribe- sometimes rebellious, allowed to exist under the rule of a major power, allowed to worship their own gods exactly like the other tribes around them.. another part that caught my interest was the account of slavery and it made me think about the way wt and other christian religions have tried to reconcile the idea that it was ok in those days for jews to own slaves because they had laws to protect the slaves.. the podcast made me realise a lot of apologists of slavery obviously forget how a person becomes a slave in the first place.

apologists like wt say it was ok because it was part of the economy and the way life was, which totally skips over the important part.. after a war, when most of the men were killed or wounded on the battlefield by the winning side, whoever was left, men, women and preferably young virgins, were taken back to the homeland of the victors and sold at the slave markets.

Tameria2001

The ironic part is that the Watchtower attempts to make slavery sound like a wonderful joyful thing, and the JWs (until they wake up individually) soak it up like gravy on bread.