Posts by Tameria2001

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How Effective Are Anti-JW Internet Sites?

by minimus in

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i think that once you get on the internet and you see evidence that shows jehovah’s witnesses do not have the real truth, it can jolt you.

but i don’t think simply going on an internet site typically changes a person’s direction—even if the information is very damning toward the witnesses.

i think it takes time to eventually get out.

Tameria2001

I think all depends on who is looking at them. First, a JW who is not even interested won't be on the internet looking for this type of information. But to those JWs who have questions, maybe someone said something to them in the past, maybe out in field service. Or there is just something that keeps nagging them at the back of their mind but is way too afraid of what would happen to them if they asked someone in the congregation. Also for those who have left or on their way out; sites like these can be very effective. If anything just having the information out there, and the proof to back it up, is extremely helpful.

When I had some doubts, and I won't go into the details, but the anti-JW sites that I found had information using the Watchtowers own publications. The sites told me which book, which page(s), and exactly where I could find the information (and I doubled checked with the publications I had) I needed to confirm what was digging at me from within the organization. At the time I had books dating from back to the early 1950s. It's not that I have lived that long, it was just older witnesses had given me those books from that time period.

I remember after I had discovered that I had been lied to, my first reaction was to throw everything away, and I did, a decision that I regret to even this day. Looking back, what I wished I had done was to give those books to someone who could put proper use to them, but I didn't.

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Contaminated Thought System

by new boy in

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friends

in gathering the last little bits of info for my book i tracked down different people, that i have known for many decades.

some are still jws and many have made the break to freedom.. one of the people i contacted was a woman i knew over forty years ago.

she like myself was a "born in.

Tameria2001

" What is your "truth" and what do you believe in? "

My "truth" from what I have always believed in was and still is. I taught my boys this as well.

First, you treat people the way you want to be treated and second DO NOT take any bull from anyone, stand up for yourself, but be wise on how you do it.

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Epiphany #2

by Solzhenitsyn in

so after much emotional struggle out into the open comes why my dear wife continues to want to stay with the wt organization.. i simply couldn't understand why someone so intelligent would suffer from such confusion wether to stay active or fade away when she has faced and accepted the anti-jw facts.

simply put: she was raised with such sick instability that jw life was the only thing that provided stability, the only thing she felt she could count on.

to this day this remains the primary reason she stays "in".

Tameria2001

I was thinking about the last part I mentioned, just wanted to add a little more to it. It happened at the point that I realized that the Watchtower was not who they said they were, you know "The Truth". I had this strong urge to talk to someone, but I didn't know who. It so happened that my husband's aunt was a Sunday School Teacher. She was the type of woman who knew her Bible, and she was quite honest about stuff. She had lived life to the fullest, and had plenty of life experience to back it up. During her lifetime she had also been a school teacher as well. She was able to answer every single question that I had; and any questions that had always nagged me, but I was too afraid to ask while a JW. She was very thorough on her research on the JWs as well.

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Epiphany #2

by Solzhenitsyn in

so after much emotional struggle out into the open comes why my dear wife continues to want to stay with the wt organization.. i simply couldn't understand why someone so intelligent would suffer from such confusion wether to stay active or fade away when she has faced and accepted the anti-jw facts.

simply put: she was raised with such sick instability that jw life was the only thing that provided stability, the only thing she felt she could count on.

to this day this remains the primary reason she stays "in".

Tameria2001

I was one of those JWs, I had to figuratively be slapped in the face by those people a few times before I finally snapped out of it. It was when my children were being affected by that cult, that I finally decided for myself that I really had to figure out for myself what was more important.

I just remember something, something that important to someone who is a JW, even those who are "weak", has this very strong feeling of needing to feel like they need to belong to a group, for example; like a certain religion.

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Family is now reaping what they sowed and they don't like it.

by Gemmel in

i resigned from the jw's in my 20's over 30 years ago, i was immediately shunned by my entire family and it's remained that way with a few exceptions ever since.

one of those exceptions was being contacted by a cousin a few years back and during that conversation i discovered that my mother had been and still was the prime mover in my complete and continuing shunning.

i then used what contacts i had left to confirm it.

Tameria2001

The way you handled it was perfect. If the shoe was on the other foot, and it was you who needed help, they would have either gave you some run around or flat out refused to help.

It got me to thinking about something that happened to my husband and me shortly after we left, maybe a year or two, can't recall the exact year, but my sons were still little guys around 5 and 7. My husband and were taking our children to a place they had always wanted to go. While still on the interstate our car broke down, the transmission went kapooie, ended up needing to be completely replaced. Anyways we were many miles away from our destination, and many miles away from home, and no cell phone. A kind woman picked us and took us to the nearest pay phone, and we first called my father-in-law, he only lived about 5 miles away from where we were calling. He told us he couldn't, but would call one of the other relatives, oh yes, he was an elder at the time. We waited, and waited, and after a few hours, we finally called another relative, in another state to see if they could help. They managed to get ahold of my brother-in-law also a JW, who also lived within 5 miles from where we were. I don't know what they said to him, but he did eventually show up. Found out from him that his father never called anyone to inform them of our situation we were in.

It was not so much me or my husband that bothered me, but he had the nerve to allow his young grandsons to be in that situation. My husband and I are also waiting for the day that we can return the favor. My family is also JWs as well.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@Giordano I hadn't even thought about going the human secularist route, never even heard of this term. I'll look up more information about this. Thank you

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@the girl next door, thank you very much for what you posted. I never learned much from my grandparents, my two grandfathers died before I was born (both men were in their 40's), and I never was around my grandmothers much. Mainly because my dad's a jerk, and he hated everyone, including me. I remember being around my mom's mom only a couple of times when I was little, and a just a couple other times with my dad's mom. So I never got to know what it was like.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@Morpheus, don't worry I'm not taking anything as rude or offensive, so don't worry. I ask the question so as to get people's thoughts on the matter. I know it doesn't fall on my shoulders, but I do know my kids, they are more into anime and video games than anything else. I don't want to push anything on them, and being a new grandma, is totally new to me. lol Anyways, partly why I'm thinking about it is because for the time being my son and daughter-in-law are living with me. They are hoping to have their own place by February. She is going to finish up her nursing classes, I'm not sure of the exact timing with this part, but it will be soon, and I've volunteered to help them out with the care their baby.

Part of me feels this way because I have lost so much, and I don't want to lose any more to that godforsaken cult. I had my own mother turn her back on me, but that didn't surprise me, because she never had it when I was a JW. But when I left it's what she said to me felt just like she had ripped my heart right out. She is/was a very cruel woman, and still even to this day I feel the effects of what she said to me that day.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@steve2, this is exactly why I'm asking about it now, so as not to royally screw things up.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

I wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under. Three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born. So I still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things. His mother is an atheist, and his father (my son) has no interest in religion what so ever. I left the JWs just before he started Kindergarten, but he still has just enough knowledge to know that the JWs are nothing but bad news. I already know that they are not going to teach him anything as far a religion is concerned. With me and my husband, we don't do religion either. We have tried other religions and churches in the past but found them all to have their own agendas.

I know that the JWs teach their kids at a very young age, to try to lure their classmates into thinking that the JWs are the way to go, and this is what I want to protect my grandson from. I figured I would keep it a very simple, you know maybe talk to him here and there just a little, without sounding like I'm pushing anything on him. I just want him to be prepared for when the time comes that even in Kindergarten, that he can possibly get those little JWs to doubt their own faith. But for sure, not to be lured in by their lies.

I know I want to teach him some basic bible stories, like Adam and Eve, Noah. Moses, Jesus and a few other of the historical people, without getting into all the gore that gave me horrible nightmares I suffered as a child. This way when they bring up this stuff, he can tell them, "Oh yeah, I already know that stuff." or something like that.

I've already told his mother what JW relatives love to do, and that is to send their relatives who are not JW literature, especially the children; this way she can guard her new son against their influences.

Do you have any recommendations for good books that keep things very light-hearted or just any suggestions in general?