Posts by Tameria2001

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Family is now reaping what they sowed and they don't like it.

by Gemmel in

i resigned from the jw's in my 20's over 30 years ago, i was immediately shunned by my entire family and it's remained that way with a few exceptions ever since.

one of those exceptions was being contacted by a cousin a few years back and during that conversation i discovered that my mother had been and still was the prime mover in my complete and continuing shunning.

i then used what contacts i had left to confirm it.

Tameria2001

The way you handled it was perfect. If the shoe was on the other foot, and it was you who needed help, they would have either gave you some run around or flat out refused to help.

It got me to thinking about something that happened to my husband and me shortly after we left, maybe a year or two, can't recall the exact year, but my sons were still little guys around 5 and 7. My husband and were taking our children to a place they had always wanted to go. While still on the interstate our car broke down, the transmission went kapooie, ended up needing to be completely replaced. Anyways we were many miles away from our destination, and many miles away from home, and no cell phone. A kind woman picked us and took us to the nearest pay phone, and we first called my father-in-law, he only lived about 5 miles away from where we were calling. He told us he couldn't, but would call one of the other relatives, oh yes, he was an elder at the time. We waited, and waited, and after a few hours, we finally called another relative, in another state to see if they could help. They managed to get ahold of my brother-in-law also a JW, who also lived within 5 miles from where we were. I don't know what they said to him, but he did eventually show up. Found out from him that his father never called anyone to inform them of our situation we were in.

It was not so much me or my husband that bothered me, but he had the nerve to allow his young grandsons to be in that situation. My husband and I are also waiting for the day that we can return the favor. My family is also JWs as well.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@Giordano I hadn't even thought about going the human secularist route, never even heard of this term. I'll look up more information about this. Thank you

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@the girl next door, thank you very much for what you posted. I never learned much from my grandparents, my two grandfathers died before I was born (both men were in their 40's), and I never was around my grandmothers much. Mainly because my dad's a jerk, and he hated everyone, including me. I remember being around my mom's mom only a couple of times when I was little, and a just a couple other times with my dad's mom. So I never got to know what it was like.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@Morpheus, don't worry I'm not taking anything as rude or offensive, so don't worry. I ask the question so as to get people's thoughts on the matter. I know it doesn't fall on my shoulders, but I do know my kids, they are more into anime and video games than anything else. I don't want to push anything on them, and being a new grandma, is totally new to me. lol Anyways, partly why I'm thinking about it is because for the time being my son and daughter-in-law are living with me. They are hoping to have their own place by February. She is going to finish up her nursing classes, I'm not sure of the exact timing with this part, but it will be soon, and I've volunteered to help them out with the care their baby.

Part of me feels this way because I have lost so much, and I don't want to lose any more to that godforsaken cult. I had my own mother turn her back on me, but that didn't surprise me, because she never had it when I was a JW. But when I left it's what she said to me felt just like she had ripped my heart right out. She is/was a very cruel woman, and still even to this day I feel the effects of what she said to me that day.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@steve2, this is exactly why I'm asking about it now, so as not to royally screw things up.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

I wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under. Three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born. So I still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things. His mother is an atheist, and his father (my son) has no interest in religion what so ever. I left the JWs just before he started Kindergarten, but he still has just enough knowledge to know that the JWs are nothing but bad news. I already know that they are not going to teach him anything as far a religion is concerned. With me and my husband, we don't do religion either. We have tried other religions and churches in the past but found them all to have their own agendas.

I know that the JWs teach their kids at a very young age, to try to lure their classmates into thinking that the JWs are the way to go, and this is what I want to protect my grandson from. I figured I would keep it a very simple, you know maybe talk to him here and there just a little, without sounding like I'm pushing anything on him. I just want him to be prepared for when the time comes that even in Kindergarten, that he can possibly get those little JWs to doubt their own faith. But for sure, not to be lured in by their lies.

I know I want to teach him some basic bible stories, like Adam and Eve, Noah. Moses, Jesus and a few other of the historical people, without getting into all the gore that gave me horrible nightmares I suffered as a child. This way when they bring up this stuff, he can tell them, "Oh yeah, I already know that stuff." or something like that.

I've already told his mother what JW relatives love to do, and that is to send their relatives who are not JW literature, especially the children; this way she can guard her new son against their influences.

Do you have any recommendations for good books that keep things very light-hearted or just any suggestions in general?

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When did the Watchtower start the shunning?

by Tameria2001 in

my husband and i were talking about the shunning part that the jws do?

where can i find more accurate information on this subject?

i am mainly trying to learn when the whole practice started, and stuff like that.

Tameria2001

My husband and I were talking about the shunning part that the JWs do? Where can I find more accurate information on this subject? I am mainly trying to learn when the whole practice started, and stuff like that. Whenever I search online for this information, Google keeps directing me back to the JW org site, and I really don't trust what comes out of their mouths. They have been very notorious about changing their history and trying to say oh we never said that. Case in point the 1914 generation teaching.

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Belief in God

by jdash in

when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.

what made you doubt your faith in god?.

thanks !.

Tameria2001

When did you guys start to doubt your faith in God?'
What made you doubt your faith in God?

I don't think I have ever lost faith in God, but when it comes to religion this a whole different thing altogether. My husband and I officially left the JWs back in 2001, dissociated ourselves by sending in a letter informing them of our decision to leave. I had many reasons for leaving that cult.

I was only involved in it because when I was a child they lied to mom. They told her that in the fall of 1975 she would once again be reunited with her baby girl that had just died only a year before. My sister was only 6. I can't even tell you the number of times I waited for her to come back into my life, I was only a year younger than her. After all, I fully believed what my mother had told me....she wouldn't lie to me, would she, no she never would. She told me that Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy were lies that parents told their kids, so why would she lie to me about my sister.

I have mixed feeling about putting all those doubts aside and getting fully involved with that cult. On one hand, if I had, I would not have met my husband, had my children, and my brand new grandbaby, and I can never picture my life without them, even if that means not having those TOXIC JWs out of my life. My thought about the Watchtower is that they made me who I am today, and I won't ever be fooled by them or someone like them. And I passed that knowledge on to my kids. If it means they won't have to suffer at the hands of the Watchtower cult it was worth it. Sorry I sort of went down a different thought than what I had originally.

I brought that up and told the elders that the Watchtower had shown themselves time and time again to be nothing but a bunch of false prophets. After that, I was jumping around from church to church trying to find a "replacement". One good thing did come out of it, a couple of different pastors, one was even a former JW elder, helped me in getting about 75% of the Watchtower crap out of my head, the rest took quite a few years later.

My thought about religion, in general, is that I consider them all cults, and something mostly to be avoided, especially these "Chrisitan" religions. Once in a while, you might find that one who is actually trying to do what is right, but they are very far and few in between. Most of them are just out there to control and take people's hard earn money, and after a while, they all had the same feel as what the Watchtower had done to me, and something I refused to ever allow to happen to me to ever happen again.

I'm just thankful I got out of it when my children were still very young, and that they eventually became young adults with their own independent thoughts and opinions on this subject, and not influenced with the Watchtower poisoning their minds.

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Cain and Abel

by Freedom rocks in

i love this from the atheists book of bible stories.

cain and abel the sacrifices

for some reason, these two boys got it into their heads that god liked gifts.

Tameria2001

After leaving the JWs I finally and truly ready the whole bible, well except for all those he is the father of so and so, and that guy is the father of so and so, that part made my eyes gloss over. And I came to the conclusion about god in the bible. Jesus said you know me, you know the father, and they make him out to be this loving carrying god. Yet in the old testament, that god was a vengeful deity, and to me, he seemed a very bi-polar. My conclusion that the god throughout the bible is not the same entity. He can't be this loving carrying, just confess your sins and all is forgiven, and on the other hand, totally wiping out total civilizations on the other. Even what is mentioned in the old testament of the bible feels like it is talking about different beings, and they are trying to wrap it up into an all in one sort of thing.

That was what I got out of reading the bible.

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Thirteen Counties Where Apostasy is a Capital Offense..

by Room 215 in

you gotta wonder just how well jws are doing in "fulfilling their commission" in afghanistan, iran, malaysia, maldives, mauritania, nigeria, pakistan, qatar, saudi arabia, somalia, sudan, united arab emirates and yemen.

https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death--z110j2uwxb.

Tameria2001

What Vidiot about the JWs being number 14 is SO TRUE. I remember once when I was around 12, my mother told me that if we, referring to the JWs, were allowed to stone our kids, she would. What was my crime, you might be asking? Absolutely NOTHING. She just told me that out of the blue. She said the only reason JWs don't stone their kids is "because of the law of the land doesn't permit it". Yea, she was a real peach, and I mean that sarcastically.