Posts by Tameria2001

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Memorial 2017

by wifibandit in

instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.

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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.

Talking about the Memorial, after I left the JWs, I had this nagging question at the back of my mind with this practice. Yes I know that only the anointed JWs would partake. But in Matthew 26:26-28 Jesus is commanding to eat of the bread and drink of the wine, because it represent his flesh and blood, and he goes on to talk about his blood was poured out for the forgiveness of sin.

Anyways after I left the JWs, I had this thought come to mind, and it is, if the JWs don't partake of the bread and wine (and this is almost all of them). Both the bread and wine are passed to every one that is in the building, and none, except for a select few, partake of the symbolic flesh and blood of Christ. Wouldn't that mean that they are actually denying Christ, and in short actually doing a Satanic ritual every year?

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So, how did the 'beard article' go over yesterday at your congregation?

by neat blue dog in

at mine the conductor was somewhat awkward and minimal and there were nervous chuckles from the audience.

two people, including an elder, gave reasonable comments that it's okay as long as it's not extreme styles, etc.

but then another one of the elders commented that nothing has changed and they still aren't proper locally.

Tameria2001

It's really funny, because if you look at any of the pictures in their publications of the men of old, Jesus, Moses, Paul, and so on, they all have beards in those pictures.

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"It's a cult, mom."

by schnell in

my mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.

even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.

maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".

Tameria2001

She sounds just like my mother. After I left that cult, she did send me a very hateful letter, and at the end she signed off, from the woman who gave birth to you. At the time it really pained me, but now 15 years later, I could care less what happens to that woman.

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Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by UnshackleTheChains in

how many witnesses are aware that technically, according to watchtower policy, they can if they wish too...associate with dissociated and disfellowshipped relatives.

for all those who are dissociated or disfellowshipped, please share this with your relatives who are currently shunning you.

there is nothing the elders can do as long as they are not discussing spiritual matters.

Tameria2001

Tell you the truth, for myself, and my husband, with them shunning us, they are actually doing US a huge favor. Because all our JW relatives are very toxic, and most of them have some severe mental issues. So even if a new light came out some time down the road where they stopped shunning. My husband and I would be shunning them, because we don't want them in our lives. I would go so far as to put a restraining order to keep them away if need be.

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Fifteen years later, I went to the UN in person.

by biblexaminer in

of all the things that the watchtower has done wrong, what would you say is the singular most powerful thing that you could point a jw to, to crack their eyes open?

what is the singular thing that can be expressed bluntly and conclusively that might shock a jw to their senses?

if you could only carry one arrow in your quiver on your way to war with watchtower, what would it be?.

Tameria2001

I remember pointing this out to my JW mother, and no matter what I told her, she wouldn't believe it, even with the proof right there in front of her. She reminded me of those three monkeys, you know the ones that have their eyes, mouth, and ears covered.

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How do you prove the watchtower organisation is not genuine using recent evidence?

by punkofnice in

when i was a jobo, i would say that anything in jobo history, eg.

miracle wheat, beth sarim et al (old light), wasn't worth considering as evidence that the wbt$ was a weirdo cult.. i think that's probably the jobo mindset now.. what would you show them from very recent lies teachings to encourage them to consider the possibility the wbt$ is a scam?.

Tameria2001

It really doesn't matter when trying to point out stuff to them, even with the facts to back you up, most of them won't listen. They will say what you are telling them are not true. To me trying to talk to a JW, who has no interest in leaving is the same thing as taking a ball and bouncing it on a wall. Nothing you say to them will sink in those thick skulls, it will just be bounced back to you. At least that was how it was with my relatives. Then to show how even more stupid my JW relatives are, a couple of them actually said to me this. "I've invested too much of my life to leave it, even if it is all a lie."

Don't get me wrong, never give up trying, because there are some who will actually wake up because of certain things that happen in their own lives, and that will make them think.

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Apostacy the same as blasphemy?

by QuestioningEverything in

jw
friends

when i was growing up, the worst thing a jw could do was be 'blasphemous against the holy spirit'.

that was certain to be instant death in the eyes of the wt.

now, as i understand it, apostacy is the worst thing you can do.

Tameria2001

I just looked at my comment, and realized auto check messed up what I was trying to say. I meant to say,

So what do you call a person who became an apostate against an apostate religion?

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Apostacy the same as blasphemy?

by QuestioningEverything in

jw
friends

when i was growing up, the worst thing a jw could do was be 'blasphemous against the holy spirit'.

that was certain to be instant death in the eyes of the wt.

now, as i understand it, apostacy is the worst thing you can do.

Tameria2001

So what do you call a person who became an apostolic against an apostolic religion?

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Speculation? What would Watchtower be now if it had fully embraced the internet / technology 20 years ago

by joe134cd in

this has probably been discussed before so please feel free to include links as well.

so what would wt be now if it had encouraged it's members to use the internet or technology for spreading the good news.

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Tameria2001

I have a strong feeling if the Watchtower had fully embraced the internet, there would be more JWs leaving than there were. I know it was the aid of the internet that helped me in figuring it all out. In my case I had almost every book dating back to the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. When I started my research, the kind folks who put together so much information and where to exactly find this information in my very own books at home. If I had gotten onto the internet much sooner, I would have left that cult that much sooner.

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Kingdom Hall construction -- Counting time and reporting travel, meals, and lodging expenses

by FatFreek 2005 in

i have two questions.

1. if you work on kingdom hall construction, are you allowed to count your time in lieu of field service?

an old thread here indicated that if you are pioneer, you can count your time.

Tameria2001

Is this something new, or has this been something that they have always done? The reason I'm asking is because I was both a regular pioneer, and I worked with the electrical crew in building kingdom halls back in between the years of 1989 to 1993. I never counted my time when I was working on any of the kingdom halls, because no one ever told me I could. If I was able, it sure would have made my life a whole lot easier.