If the Watchtower does ever end, I would LOVE to see it happen before my mother and sister pass away. They would go on and on about how when religion falls, that Jehovah's Orgization would still be here. I would LOVE for them to eat their word. When it does fall apart, I hope it is from the inside out, meaning that they were the cause of their own downfall, and not some outside force such as the government. I think I will stop here, before I really start ranting.
Tameria2001
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Irony of Ironies: THE WATCHTOWER WILL END LONG BEFORE THE WORLD DOES!
by steve2 ini was recently acquainted with the exhaustive - and blatantly inaccurate and crazy - theorizing by a "dr thomas", the "founder" of the christadelphians.. he was an earlier "contemporary" of chuck russell - and some have accused russell of "stealing" the christadelphians main teachings.
they're probably correct in their accusation.
christadelphians do not believe in the trinity or hellfire, are conscientious objectors who do not vote and who hate catholicism and are scathing in their views of christendom - although like all "decent" religious groups, jws included, have toned down their rabid attacks on other religious groups in recent decades.. dr thomas's quaint - and hilariously self-important - interpretation of scripture, led him on several occasions to predict the end of the world in his own day.
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What to say if JW tells you the big A is coming very soon, Jehovah's day will come here like a thief? etc..
by Iamallcool ini like terry's topic about noah's day not being armageddon enough.
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Tameria2001
I wouldn't say anything, let them believe what they want. It would never do anything to say something about it to them. To me trying to explain it to a JW would be like taking a rubber ball and throwing it against a brick wall. It would bounce off of them, and they would look at you with this blank expression, and they just would not get it. I tried to explain it once to my mom, and it was like that. They won't want to hear it, until they are ready.
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Did You Ever See Yourself Getting Out Of The JW Religion?
by minimus ineven though i realized there were different issues that i had, it took years for me to finally decide that i wanted out.
it took less than a year for me to slowly get out and i did that successfully along with my daughter and my then wife.
we all are still all happily out.. did you believe that you would be anything but a jehovah's witness?.
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Tameria2001
Until I was 32, I thought I was going to stay in it. Then in only one month I had a very rude awaking, and saw them for what they really were. I stoped attending the meetings, and a month later I sent them a letter telling them that I no longer wanted to be a member of their religion. I was raised in that cult as a small child, and believed every thing I was told, until that day. But before anyone jumps on my case and tells me that I gave up too easy, I must say something first. I did see things over the years, but did not pay much attention to them. I did remember, but it just did not dawn on me, it was only when it involved my 5 year old son was when I decided to really do some research on them. As soon as I figured it all out, I was very pissed off. I was so angry that I threw away all my Watchtower publications, everything.
Let me just say, I shocked everyone, including the elders. When they came to my door to confirm that I was the one who actually sent the letter, they asked me why. I did not feel like getting into a huge discussion with them, but I pointed out the scripture in Deuteronomy and false prophets. I then asked them about all the dates that were set in the past, and the changes. All they told me, was that I had a good point, and this was something that they were going to discuss at their next meeting. The only thing that I hope came out of that, was it gave them something to think about.
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Safety Annoucement on SCAMS
by free2beme ini work in a line of work where i have to help people who have suffered from scams a lot.
so i thought i would pass on some thoughts to people here, to maybe prevent you from having these scams take money or time from you.
oh, and as much as some of these seem obvious ... people fall for them daily and constantly.. 1. an american citizen can not win a foriegn lottery.
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Tameria2001
I learned a few years back to check with the Better Business Beru, before even thinking about dealing with anyone. This was after I lost some money. It was not very much, but it was enough to teach me a lesson.
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Why do they call it the New World Translation?
by Tameria2001 indoes anyone know why the watchtower named their bible the new world translation of the holy scriptures?
it's been awhile since i have even had any of their books in my home, and most of the time i don't think about it.
i don't know why, but when i think of that title, the phrase new world order keeps popping up in my mind..
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Tameria2001
Does anyone know why the Watchtower named their bible the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures? It's been awhile since I have even had any of their books in my home, and most of the time I don't think about it. I don't know why, but when I think of that title, the phrase New World Order keeps popping up in my mind.
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MIL letter to my wife
by AggieNostic inbackground: my wife and i are inactive, we stopped attending in 2005. raised as jws, were pioneers, i was elder etc... .
our kids are in college, also inactive but are baptised.
my wife went back to college, getting her degree this month at age 48!
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Tameria2001
I'm sorry, I just could not read through that whole letter. Sounds very much like the ones that "the woman who gave birth to me" (her words, and I even refuse to call her the m word) would send to me. Every so often I would get letters like that, and it would just mess with my emotions just too much. The best healing I did for myself was after I finally said enough, was I would not open the letter, and I would "RETURN TO SENDER". That was back in 2009. What they are doing is nothing more than emotional abuse, it is hateful, unloving, and very toxic.
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How was it possible for Adam to name All the animals in one day?
by jam insome have argued, genesis 1:24 bring forth the living.
creature according to it,s kind.
so this will cut down on the.
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Tameria2001
Maybe he only named all the animals that was living around him in the garden, and maybe there was not as many species of animals as there are today. Just saying.
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WT SHUNNING POLICY: What has it done, or could it do to you?
by flipper inhi y'all, this is mrs. flipper.
please share your experiences with this, or possible consequences of being outed.. this recent controversy and resulting arguments all stem from people being outed - possibly losing friends and family because most jw's will blindly follow the watchtower's rules to shun them.. among people i know and experiences read here, the grief and loss caused by this is terrible, and maybe now is a good time to put up some experiences here, and put the focus on the worst villians of all - wt policymakers..
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Tameria2001
I officially left the JWs and the Watchtower back in 2001. For a while I did go through a grieving process of the loss of my relatives. I was fortunate that I did not lose my husband or my children. My husband left them the same time I did, and my children were only 5 and 3. I am very thankful for the most part that my children did not have to grow up in the clutches of that demonic cult. Yes I feel that strongly about the Watchtower. Since that time I had left that group, I did have one sister who also left it; she hates them even worse than I do.
I use to worry about what if my mother passed away, would they even have the courtesy of even letting me know. Now it has been almost 12 years, and I don’t even give a dam if they even bother to tell me or not. Even if they did, I would refuse to even go. Has my heart hardened? The answer to that is a huge YES. In my mind and heart, the woman who use to be my mother died a very long time ago, and I already went through the grieving process. The woman who she is now is a hateful, crazy nut job. My sister, who left the JWs, just saw the woman last fall, and she actually physically attacked her own daughter at a funeral.
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Are born-ins or are converts most likely to leave?
by Julia Orwell inmaybe born-ins are, because we converts made the choice whereas the born-ins did not.
or are the converts more likely to because of thought patterns developed outside the cult?
i'd like to know what you think..
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Tameria2001
I was not born in, my mother became one when I was five. I guess that would be about as close to born in as it can get. My dad never became a JW, and never went to any meetings. The same is for my husband, but in his case it was both his mom and dad to became JWs. He does have relatives that he is close to that are not JWs, and never will be, because they saw first hand what happens with one does leave the Watchtower.
I can't speak for others, but I am the type of person who, if I believe it, ok, but if I don't, well let me just say I don't have time for it in my life. I won't be a hypocrite either. At first, yes it was very tough, loosing my JW relatives, but I vowed that I would never return to that vomit. Yes that is how strongly I feel about the Watchtower. I can not even stomach listen to the words and lies that come out of their mouths any more.
Someone asked me the other day how I would feel if my mother passes away, she is still alive, but getting up there. I have no love in my heart anymore for my biological JW relatives. Will I attend this woman's funeral? The answer is a flat out NO, or should I say He!! NO!! But before anyone accuses me of being cold hearted, there was a lot of abuse I had recieved at the hand of both my biological parents, and I refuse to even call them that. Anymore if I have to mention them, I call them by their first names, just not on this site. They don't even know where I live, and I don't even want them to find out.
OOPS, it looks like I got a little distracted in my toughts, but the answer for me was, when I left, it was like this weight had been lifted off of me. Yes for a while it was like learning all over again, and I was very glad that my husband was there by my side during this whole thing. He was also going through the same thing as well, so we had each other to help us through all this. I'm sure if we both would have drove any one else nuts. There are times, not so much any more, but there were times in the past that we would just get really angry. Not at each other, but our situation and what we were dealing with because of the Watchtower Cult.
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So, Was It Just "Luck" Or Did "Jehovah" Intervene At Times For You?
by minimus ini know witnesses believe that miracles were done away with other "gifts" after the apostles died but every so often they suggest god produced a miracle.. did you believe that jehovah god saved you out of a bad situation?
did you accept that god's angel help you out?.
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Tameria2001
I was never saved from anything bad while I was a JW, in fact it was the complete opposite for me. About the only good thing that ever came out of that cult was I use to work on the kingdom hall builds with the electrical crew. At one site I did meet my husband, we were married a few months later, and in 2001 we left that cult together. Hubby wanted to leave it much sooner than I did, but he waited on me, until I figured the Watchtower out for what they really is.
I won't even go into the crap I had to endure growing up in that cult.