Saintbertholdt

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  Eagerly anticipating the death of billions!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  surely someone who eagerly looks forward to the death of billions of people (including babies and children) is not emotionally healthy?.

  yet, that is the key belief "happily" anticipated by witnesses.... food for thought?.

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  For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

  by lovesjehovah in

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  2. friends

  i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

  i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

  i do not condone any crime.

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  Earlier in this thread: We frequented a spot in the car just to smoke marijuana. Lol. Yes, I know I am unconventional in relation to the rest of the religions beliefs but Jah knows my heart. It's only a plant

  Then later: ......I just wanted to start a post that doesn't talk about sorrow, death, disfellowshiping, loneliness, etc. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes at all. Just here to be that one topic that isn't full of sadness.

  
  

  
  
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  Passionless loveless JW.ORG. How? Why? My experience with these Pharasees.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i studied with this guy who is now an elder in my moms hall.

  she has cancer and is black and blue from it.

  we are like real family so i invite him over for drinks and pizza.

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  When Jehovah's Witness elders take on that Watchtower personality of leadership they no longer are themselves, they are playing a role. Just as in the military: The higher an officers rank is, generally the more they will portray a caricature/role of that rank and their own personality will disappear. Also in organizations like corporations, CEO's and executives personalities disappear to be replaced by the image of the executive and so on. There are exceptions of course but that is how things generally are.

  My point is that when you are playing a role, you are doing just that. How can you really and fundamentally connect with people if you are not being yourself? Because all you're really doing now is a job.

  
  
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  For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

  by lovesjehovah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

  i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

  i do not condone any crime.

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  We frequented a spot in the car just to smoke marijuana.

  Praise Jah!!!!! You're my kind of witness. I hope there are many more of you.

  Ah hahahahahahahahhaha. Oh ohohohohoh ...hahahahahahaha my sides.

  Does the word 'troll' mean anything to you?

  Ah hahahahahahahahahaha.... I'm sorry I'm out.

  
  
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  For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

  by lovesjehovah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

  i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

  i do not condone any crime.

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  steve2 thank you. Just one thread is all I asked.

  I'm going to start a thread on hominid evolution. I'll state that all I want is for people who are Young Earth Creationists on this forum to respect my personal desire and keep their comments to themselves. Just one thread is all I ask. Please Young Earth Creationists be reasonable and keep out of the thread.

  That is how you sound.
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  For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

  by lovesjehovah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

  i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

  i do not condone any crime.

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  "As the thread suggests, I am only going to respond to those who truly love Jehovah."

  Well whether you choose to respond or not is irrelevant.

  Here's why: This is a public forum. Probably the oldest Jehovah's Witness forum in existence today. You can trace threads back to over a decade. Some members on here have been here for 15 years+.

  Exchanges on topics like these stay up for the public to see for a very very long time.

  So if you don't answer, that's fine because the criticism then stands unopposed.

  Also remember where you are: You are not on a pro-JW site and you are asking us not to participate if our comments do not dance to your particular tune just because its your personal decree. This is unreasonable and will be ignored.
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  For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

  by lovesjehovah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

  i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

  i do not condone any crime.

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  Saintbertholdt

  Hi lovesjehovah,

  Let me say you have quite a bit of courage. You are trying to promote something at a venue with a group of people who do not share your sentiment, and the reasons for this are quite simple:

  1. Most of the people on this forum who have left the organization have experienced the Watchtower policy of shunning. They have lost friends and they have lost family and will probably never get to see or to communicate with them again. This makes many of US very upset.

  2. Most of the witnesses who are still active on this forum feel the pressure to conform and cannot leave the organization for the above mentioned reason. As one rather well known lawyer (in ex-jehovah's witness circles anyway) has stated, I paraphrase: Many Jehovah's Witnesses are being held "hostage" within the Watchtower religion because of the shunning policy.

  Perhaps a forum better suited to your point of view of: "Here we have a venue to discuss what we love about Jehovah." would be jwtalk. On that forum you will be among fellow believers who wholeheartedly share your sentiments.

  Anyway if you can stand the heat in this kitchen, WELCOME and I hope to hear lots and lots from you.

  Now to answer your question: What do we/I love about Jehovah?

  1. Well he's decisive.

  2. He's powerful.

  3. Historically He certainly knows how to kill and His plan to murder 7 Billion people is grand indeed.

  4. He created some fascinating living creatures including some very impressive bacteria and viruses.

  Greetings

  
  
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  Everybody loves Raymond

  by Saintbertholdt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".

  the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.

  by nature i am an iconoclast.

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  Hi there Las Malvinas son Argentinas,

  You are absolutely correct. I had actually looked up the quotation in Crisis of Conscience, but as these things happen, in a very bad case of confirmation bias I replaced Chitty with Greenlees. I can only say that I did not do it on purpose. In my desire to 'get' something on Franz I actually mixed up the two individuals. I only realized what I had done when you made your post.

  In my defense the original post was just meant to stir up some polemic regarding Franz.

  I mean how do blacken someone who was by all accounts a good man with a good conscience?

  Its a damn difficult task. And after all my efforts Franz still comes out smelling like a rose.
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  Hey, this is me... I'm the guy on the left! =)

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (picture taken from the wt study some weeks back).

  all these years, i've always dreaded waking up early for field service.

  i'm a night owl & love to sleep late, so it was excruciating for me to have to wake up early in the mornings & go door knocking.

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  Saintbertholdt

  LOL @ Saintbertholdt! Livin' the good life, eh?

  La dolce vita :) Doesn't help my financial solvency though and my creditors do not approve of my alternative lifestyle.
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  Hey, this is me... I'm the guy on the left! =)

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (picture taken from the wt study some weeks back).

  all these years, i've always dreaded waking up early for field service.

  i'm a night owl & love to sleep late, so it was excruciating for me to have to wake up early in the mornings & go door knocking.

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  Saintbertholdt

  This is me. I take up all eight tiles: