Posts by Saintbertholdt

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Org's National Flag Contradict

by The Searcher in

the org sanctions elders in chile to hang the national flag from kingdom halls annually, but has a problem with rwanda's law for newly-weds to hold a flag as they get married.

"jehovahs witnesses in rwanda, and as a worldwide organization, express concern for human rights violations as outlined above.

they respectfully request the government of rwanda to take the necessary steps to: permit jehovahs witnesses to take the marriage vows in civil ceremonies or oaths without being forced to hold the national flag;".

Saintbertholdt

Hi Searcher,

The Org sanctions elders in Chile to hang the national flag from Kingdom Halls annually

Got any more information on that?

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New picture...about time...sorry for bat gravatar

by blondie in

jw
friends

if only it was so easy to change our looks in real life........

Saintbertholdt

Hey Blondie,

Change... they say... is as good as a holiday.

I like the pink hair. Atomic!

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Do you think the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime or a terrible act of war ?

by truthseeker100 in

i believe that the bombings shortened the war in the pacific and probably saved countless lives.

i am not an expert on this subject but given the times it was probably the correct and moral thing to do.. what say you all?.

Saintbertholdt

Originally there was some talk by the Allies of first demonstrating the A-bomb.

But then the argument was: What if it doesn't work or doesn't work well?

So then there was talk of Warning the Japanese.

Well again what if it doesn't work or doesn't work well?

So the final idea was drop it without warning. However the Allies did send a cable a couple of days before the first detonation demanding the unconditional surrender of Japan without any new reasons being given except the apparent fact that Japan would eventually lose the war.

Dropping the A-bomb a second time without warning also did two things:

1. It maximized shock value

2. It left the question open whether the US still had more A-bombs in their arsenal just waiting to be dropped

Well it certainly shocked Japan but that was not the reason they actually surrendered. They were still adamant to keep on fighting unless they could retain the Emperor as a true monarch. Turns out the primary reason for Japan's surrender was that Communist Russia attacked Japan in China and so doing declared war on Japan. So with that Japan was truly finished.

So to answer the question with my 2 cents: No it was not a war crime. Japan would have fought to the last man, women and child if Russia had not entered the war against Japan. The Allies had to minimize their casualties while still gaining victory. If Japan had continued the War as they were aiming to do, the US would have systemically nuclear carpet bombed them until the Japanese realized the truth of their situation.

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Photodrama of creation: Solar system has 12 planets?

by Saintbertholdt in

in the photodrama of creation there's a picture of the solar system.. there are 12 solar orbiting objects.

(also a 13th orbit which seems to be a comet, probably halley).

does anyone know where russell got this from?.

Saintbertholdt

Hi Suraj,

Pluto had not yet been discovered, and would not be until after Russell's death.

The 12th object is after Neptune.

As far as I understand it, a 9th planet was already guessed at in the late 19th century.

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Photodrama of creation: Solar system has 12 planets?

by Saintbertholdt in

in the photodrama of creation there's a picture of the solar system.. there are 12 solar orbiting objects.

(also a 13th orbit which seems to be a comet, probably halley).

does anyone know where russell got this from?.

Saintbertholdt

It's probably 3 of the largest asteroids such as Ceres, Pallas and Vesta.

Thanks VI,

Could explain it. I wonder where Russell got the chart from?

And the comet (?) is doing well to get between Mercury and the Sun.

I assumed it was Halley

File:AnimatedOrbitOf1PHalley.gif

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With Russell's interpretations on Pleiades and the Great Pyramid, I sometimes feel as if the old WT literature should be used as a plot point in a Ghost Busters type movie :)

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Photodrama of creation: Solar system has 12 planets?

by Saintbertholdt in

in the photodrama of creation there's a picture of the solar system.. there are 12 solar orbiting objects.

(also a 13th orbit which seems to be a comet, probably halley).

does anyone know where russell got this from?.

Saintbertholdt

Hi Max,

Thought of that because the extra objects are between Jupiter and earth.

But then each extra object is specified with a dot, so it can't represent belts of objects.

Perhaps specific asteroids???

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Photodrama of creation: Solar system has 12 planets?

by Saintbertholdt in

in the photodrama of creation there's a picture of the solar system.. there are 12 solar orbiting objects.

(also a 13th orbit which seems to be a comet, probably halley).

does anyone know where russell got this from?.

Saintbertholdt

Hi there all,

In the Photodrama of creation there's a picture of the solar system.

There are 12 solar orbiting objects. (Also a 13th orbit which seems to be a comet, probably Halley)

Does anyone know where Russell got this from?

And what are the unknown orbiting objects?

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Standing for Judge Okay - Standing for Anthem Wrong

by berrygerry in

for decades before leaving, i always found this contradiction so hypocritical, and one of the harshest, emotionally damaging, things that this cult does to its young.

Saintbertholdt

From Legally establishing the good news (1950):

You will show respect to the Judge presiding and to the prosecuting attorney... In many courts all present are required to rise and stand as the judge enters. The Society considers that this does not constitute a violation of God's law. It is an act of respect similar to rising from our chairs to greet one who enters our home. Paul set the example for us to follow when he appeared before kings, rulers, judges and courts. When being beard before the visiting king, Agrippa, he was interrupted by Festus. Paul tactfully said, "most noble Festus."

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Standing for Judge Okay - Standing for Anthem Wrong

by berrygerry in

for decades before leaving, i always found this contradiction so hypocritical, and one of the harshest, emotionally damaging, things that this cult does to its young.

Saintbertholdt

Judges are viewed by the law and governments as temporary aristoi. Supreme court justices as permanent aristoi. Aristocracy has actually never left modern democracies, just taken a different form.

According to the Bible you can honor princes and kings, therefore standing is ok.

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Interview with Zimbabwe's Minister of Tourism at JW HQ

by OrphanCrow in

zimbabwe has been under the rule of a dictator since 1980. robert mugabe, the president of zimbabwe, is notorious for his ruthless ways of dealing with the problems of a post-colonial country.

his land reforms resulted in much economic hardship for the people of zimbabwe and anyone who was a white farmer in zimbabwe suffered dire consequences as a result of mugabe's land grabs post-2000.

the atrocities against the people of zimbabwe have been documented by cathy buckle and i have personally heard of the violence against those opposed to mugawbe's policies.. some comments from a 2003 article about robert mugabe:.

Saintbertholdt

Oh wow,

So with the video in the original post you have one dictatorship complementing another. How wonderful.

In 2007 I participated in an Amnesty International writing campaign protesting against Zimbabwe's ban of a prayer meeting and the resulting government violence against the assembly. To this day you can't directly snail mail Zimbabwe's government because they just don't process offending mail when they receive a slew of letters after a known human rights violation. During the campaign we had to mail the President of the United Republic of Tanzania to therefore indirectly put pressure on the Zimbabwe government at an international summit.

Totalism has the same characteristics in government and religion.