Why do many non-religious people dislike religious people?
I see secularism more "on the attack"than religion (in the US)....
Posts by ThiChi
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35Why do many religious people dislike non-religious people?
by Elsewhere ini've noticed that usually when someone who is very religious finds out that i am an atheist, they become very agitated even though i never actually said anything negative about their religion.. are they embarrassed?.
do they think i am condemning them?.
do they see me as a threat?.
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ThiChi
Frecchbabyface:
This speech was given in France.....do you know who gave the speech? I think of the US-Bush effort in IRAQ when critics speak...
"...It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat...."
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ThiChi
Cost of Freedom and Democracy, Priceless!
(Whats in your wallet?)
Think of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence in 1776. Individually, each of them had more to lose than to gain in a revolution. Most of them were already men of standing in their communities, highly educated and owners of substantial property. John Hancock, the richest man in America, became a wanted man, with a price of ,500 on his head. They did not choose to revolt; they merely wanted to be treated the same as other Englishmen were in England. And they all knew that the penalty for treason was death by hanging.
Each signer became a marked man, pursued relentlessly by the British retribution. None who had property or family were spared. Most lived to see their families killed or separated forever and their property sacked. Nine signers died of wounds or hardships during the war. Many died in poverty-the fathers of our country! Their pledge-"our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor"-was no idle boast. The cost of freedom is incalculable.The cost of freedom? Worth any price, because nothing can substitute for it. Nothing!
Patrick Henry??s words are as prudent today as they were in 1775.
""Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in a country as that which we posses, are invincible by any force our enemy may send against us??The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone, it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave??Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!""
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Saw My Surgeon Today. She's Agreed To A Date.
by Englishman ina blonde lady, tall, high heels, slim, attractive, nice deep voice all in all top totty!
oops, i'm wandering......... actually i had hl with me too.
i'd gone for my post op check-up and passed with flying colours.
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ThiChi
All the best, congratulations on your wedding anniversary, our prayer to you and yours!
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Is Global Warming a Myth?
by Sirona ini've been reading about global warming recently and to be honest its getting more confusing by the minute.. some say there is so much evidence that it is caused by humans (burning of fossil fuels etc) but some say that it is a natural cycle that we shouldn't worry about.. http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm.
what is the truth?
are you concerned about our planet?.
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ThiChi
Realist:
"...nothing about child death rates, molar teeth, etc"
What do you think "forensic studies" mean? Are you really a Biologist?
Read the book......your dismissive remarks are very telling. Your rationalizations are wearisome. and thanks for the ride...lol
Let the readers decide.......
Abaddon:
That is your reply, you don?t "see them (sparrows) at the park anymore" The fact is if their food supply is reduced in the winter, the sparrows may not be making as many trips to the park as they once did....
Again, you speak in generalities. I can say with confidence that the Mayan?s did not cease to exist because of vehicle emissions. Or excessive CO2, or any modern technology. Which, is the topic at hand. This example too begs the question: Was war a factor in their dispelled condition? Or disease? The vast surrounding area was so heavily wooded, for hundreds of miles, one would think they would sustain a supply route as they expanded...who knows?
Is the demise of the apes the result of lack of vegetation, or has hunting played a part? As an example, hunting played a role in the demise of the buffalo. As for the rain forest, I have already proved that 90% is in tact. The other numbers are suspicious, non specific, at best (this looks like a "cut and paste" job...lol) and begs the question:
Has "species loss" always been an occurrence in Earth?s history? If it has, at what rate? What does this information have to do with excessive CO2 and Global Warming?
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Al Zarqawi Vows Alligeance to Bin Laden
by freedom96 init reminds me of when bush declared after the 9/11 attacks, that "either you are with us, or against us.".
the bush administration has long thought there are ties between bin ladens group and al zarqawi.
well, zarqawi just answered that now, didn't he.
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ThiChi
Wow, who would have guessed?
It amazes me that Laden?s people are found everywhere, even in South Florida, but "not in Iraq" according to some.
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ThiChi
I do not recognize the first quote from Jesus..."Give him who begs from you...."
Anyone know what scripture this is taken from?
In defense of Bush (and Jesus), notice Jesus encourages the individual to these works, not the Government. Jesus Opposed the government of his day. The Government cannot create wealth, only confiscate it from one and then give it to another...
Regarding using violence, did not Jesus use whips (force?) to drive out those who wrongly invaded his Father?s temple? In light of this fact, is Jesus being taken out of context when quoting the "turn the cheek" remark?
The big question is: Does Jesus approve of SUVs? lol.............
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Is Global Warming a Myth?
by Sirona ini've been reading about global warming recently and to be honest its getting more confusing by the minute.. some say there is so much evidence that it is caused by humans (burning of fossil fuels etc) but some say that it is a natural cycle that we shouldn't worry about.. http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm.
what is the truth?
are you concerned about our planet?.
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ThiChi
""if you read it twice then please answer the question as to how he was able to determine life expectancy in 8000 bc. I would like to know how this is done.""
United Nations' Determinants and Consequences of Population Trends Study, which used biological, archaeological and environmental information which includes forensic studies. Another impressive work is Dr. Richard Jones. Atlas of World Population History and other resources...
Now, Read the Book...
""the question is will it be pleasant for us to adapt to new conditions or would it perhaps be better to conserve the current situation? ""
So what is new? This has always been the case. Nomadic behavior has always been dictated by environmental factors. You are really a Biologist, right?
Would it be pleasant to walk everywhere trying to cut down CO2, or vacation further north? You call it....
"as you know CO2 is not the only thing plants need in order to grow"
It depends on what plants you refer to. Drought tolerant plants and other species thrive in different environments...so? The verities of plants are a testament to the Earth?s temperature extremes ...so?
""if you didn't read the book then you don't even know what hypothesis, evidence and arguments you are actually defending.""
There you go again...non-issues and attacks. Truly the refuge of intellectual Scoundrels. We all see through it. I use the information posted to stand by my claims.
""there is a difference between fear and caution. To simply say "don't worry everything will turn out dandy" might not be very wise.""
There sure is, and I grow tired of your one-sided approach to this topic.
""..don't worry everything will turn out dandy..."
Who made this claim? Or, is this another "non issue" you are trying to pass off?
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Is Global Warming a Myth?
by Sirona ini've been reading about global warming recently and to be honest its getting more confusing by the minute.. some say there is so much evidence that it is caused by humans (burning of fossil fuels etc) but some say that it is a natural cycle that we shouldn't worry about.. http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm.
what is the truth?
are you concerned about our planet?.
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ThiChi
""sorry but if you cannot answer my question then it is very doubtful that you read it yourself""
Realist: you are really tops at making issues out of non-issues.
What is your point? I offered to loan the book to you if you would like. Yes I have read it, twice. You really need to read the book...
Most of your information is really off topic. The issue is not the amount of Pollution that can be absorbed through a certain system, or second guess what areas will or will not be affected.
My only claim is large amounts of CO2 has existed on Earth in the past. Like it or not, it is also a fact that warmer weather and increased CO2 is conducive to more vegetation. Earth History has proved this...
Notwithstanding, this is a "Global Discussion", not any one local area that may be affected. It goes without saying the green belt has moved and is moving, so what? Are you ready to ski Palm Springs one day?
Are you really a Biologist? Did I really read the Book? who cares....
One point I do agree with is this : "Climate modellers admit to being very uncertain about how global warming will affect particular regions"
So true......
Unlike you, I will not proceed from a perspective of fear....there is just no evidence to prove otherwise.
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Is Global Warming a Myth?
by Sirona ini've been reading about global warming recently and to be honest its getting more confusing by the minute.. some say there is so much evidence that it is caused by humans (burning of fossil fuels etc) but some say that it is a natural cycle that we shouldn't worry about.. http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm.
what is the truth?
are you concerned about our planet?.
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ThiChi
An example please? No one has ever observed and documented the biological changes needed in a species to do what you claim. One example will do...
However, some species have changed their behavior to exist in a changing environment.. And certain stimuli can cause, as an example, thicker coats in warm weather, but those mechanisms already existed...see the difference?