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  "Who, then, is the faithful and wise servant...?" - NEW ARTICLE

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wanting to let you know that i've published a new article on my website.. it's called "who, then, is the faithful and wise servant...?".

  given the recent controversy about the "new light" of the wts / jw's about the subject, i decided to look deeper into it and came up with a surprising (even for me) conclusion.. i hope you enjoy.. eden.

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  TheOldHippie

  You wrote an article and the conclusion was a surprise to you? ...................................
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  DC Drama stirs up drama of it's own!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember the drama about persecution,suffering, that a modern-day job experiences?

  the jw's under ban in a " landmark ruling", our faithful brother conversing with job in the new world, it' all too wonderful!

  especially job wearing pants and a tunic style shirt!

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  TheOldHippie

  "I have it on good authority from someone who is directly involved with the dramas"

  Yeah, sure .........................
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  United Nations General Assembly Report on Objection to Military Service by Jehovah's Witnesses and others | June 3, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jw leaks has published the june 3, 2013, united nations general assembly analytical report on conscientious objection to military service.. page 3, paragraph 4, of the report states:.

  "the following non-governmental organizations responded: the associazione comunita papa giovanni xxiii, the centre for civil and political rights, the european bureau for conscientious objection, the european organisation of military associations, forum 18 news service, the german institute for human rights, human rights watch, the international fellowship of reconciliation, jehovahs witnesses, the quaker united nations office, the russian ngo soldiers mothers of st. petersburg, the union of conscientious objectors, and war resisters international.".

  this 17 page report deals substantially with jehovah's witnesses.. .

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  TheOldHippie

  Following that logic - if someone hurts you or does you wrong, should you then NOT turn to the judicial system, but solely rely on God to help you and in due time take revenge on the wrong-doer?
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  United Nations General Assembly Report on Objection to Military Service by Jehovah's Witnesses and others | June 3, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jw leaks has published the june 3, 2013, united nations general assembly analytical report on conscientious objection to military service.. page 3, paragraph 4, of the report states:.

  "the following non-governmental organizations responded: the associazione comunita papa giovanni xxiii, the centre for civil and political rights, the european bureau for conscientious objection, the european organisation of military associations, forum 18 news service, the german institute for human rights, human rights watch, the international fellowship of reconciliation, jehovahs witnesses, the quaker united nations office, the russian ngo soldiers mothers of st. petersburg, the union of conscientious objectors, and war resisters international.".

  this 17 page report deals substantially with jehovah's witnesses.. .

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  TheOldHippie

  They are not referred to as a NGO, it says that " The following non-governmental organizations responded: the Associazione Comunita Papa Giovanni XXIII, the Centre for Civil and Political Rights, the European Bureau for Conscientious Objection, the European Organisation of Military Associations, Forum 18 News Service, the German Institute for Human Rights, Human Rights Watch, the International Fellowship of Reconciliation, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Quaker United Nations Office, the Russian NGO Soldiers’ Mothers of St. Petersburg, the Union of Conscientious Objectors, and War Resisters International."

  There are no capital letters in the phrase "non-governmental organizations", so they are just that - organizations outside of the government, non-official. But if you see the Russian NGO Soldiers' Mothers of St. Petersburg" they are careful to use the capital letters there in identifying the group as a "real" NGO.
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  DATING THE BOOK OF REVELATION - new article

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just published another article on my website.

  i promised i would make a more complete study on dating the book of revelation.

  as a result i published the article: dating revelation - solely with internal evidence from the new testament.

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  TheOldHippie

  " John would have been released from Patmos in 68 AD (or shortly thereafter) and the time when he received this revelation and wrote it down would have been prior to 70 AD. John himself mentions in the book that he was at Patmos, when he received this revelation. Given the commentary of Paul about a distinguished disciple receiving visions of heavens and secret revelations in the year 41 CE, and assuming that disciple was John, then the visions of John began even before he was exiled to Patmos"

  The two parts I have underlined, says it all to me. If one assumes things and states things would have happened - then all is possible ,,,,,,,,
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  Mistranslated Scriptures

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm looking for help with a list of scriptures that the jw's mistranslated.

  i'm thinking this may help to wake some one up.

  i can think of rev 1:9 rev.5:10 and in luke were they changed the wording to say covenant from appoint or bestow, but that all i know so far.

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  But the question is not THAT easy, is it? If you say that something is a false translation or mistranslated - then compared to what? Or to which translation? Can we say that a translation is wrong, just because it differs from an older translation? Just because a translation - as a whole or of a certain passage - is old and/or widely used, it does not have to mean it is correct. For each and every NWT verse some would choose to call a false translation, one could just as easily point to other verses in other versions or translations and call THEM false translations. There is a huge difference between a translation which is different from how the verse is translated by other versions of the Bible, but where the transalation is within the realms of what is possible - and a translation where grammar rules and word meanings seem to have been deliberately broken or changed to force the verse to state what your pet opinion wishes it to state. John 1:1 is no example of the latter, and neither are 90 % of the so-called examples of falsely translated verses in the NWT. I think you should start by reading Jason BeDuhn's Truth in Translation.

  We do not speak KJV English any more. Languages change. New manuscripts are found. Our knowledge about the world 2,000 years ago increase. If you do not speak NT Greek yourself, you really are in no position to utter an opinion on the matter, because you then have to rely on what experts say, and you have to "pick your experts", choose between them. As long as you do not master NT Greek yourself, all you have is hearsay.
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  Seeing the Strange in the JW Familiar

  by laverite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are times when we manage to step outside of our own identities, perspectives and world view, and look at ourselves, our situations or certain lived experiences almost as an outsider.

  sociologists call it seeing the strange in the familiar.

  an anthropologist by the name of miner wrote a fascinating piece involving this very concept (see http://www.ohio.edu/people/thompsoc/body.html).

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  TheOldHippie

  Not being allowed to wear 'pants' in a blizzard --- WE-IRD!

  Yes, very weirs, as all European female JWs wear them. So one should try to make a difference between what is one's personal experience and what is worldwide group behavious.
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  JWs Most Feared Bible Verse

  by JCISGOD98 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jehovah witnesses most feared bible verse.

  watch video and don't forget to share with your friends.

  skip the ad and video will begin.

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  TheOldHippie

  What Bible have you been reading, poor BugBear? - finding in it all those things as the main contents, I mean?
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  KM quote? Examining the Truth is bad?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been looking for a quote that i believe was in a km, but i just have not found it yet.

  it was about examining beliefs.

  it was not the quote that said " study is hard work, bethel will do it for you.

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  TheOldHippie

  But IF JWs should be warned against studying the Bible - perhaps a quote to that effect would be required in stead of just claims to that effect?
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  Can losing faith in God be a disfellowshipping offense?

  by Emery in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been pondering this question for awhile.

  say a person during a shepherding visit with the elders were to simply state that they had lost their faith in god because of the subject of suffering-- would the elders still have grounds to disfellowship them even if the person did not actually commit a sinful offense?

  instead of diving into all the errors, false prophecies, and lies advanced by the organization can somebody simply say, "i have lost faith in jehovah" and walk away without being publically denounced?

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  TheOldHippie

  Just remember the bias by those having responded. Their responses might not be 100 % agreed upon by JWs or elders you would come across. Those having responded of course have THEIR history to tell and THEIR reasons for responding as they do. The whole question is a bit "weird", why would one wish to continue being a member - to call it that - of an organization whose aims, foundations, whole legitimacy one not only questions but denies? Depending of how militant one puts forward one's views, I guess the result would more be "has disassociated himself".