Posts by smiddy3

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Dutch State secretary reaction about abuse report and argumentation judge

by Gorbatchov in

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reaction of state secretary and arguments of judge about report jw abuse in the netherlands.

minister dekker: report on jehovah's sketches "extremely worrying" picture

the report on the extent of sexual abuse within the community of jehovah's witnesses paints an extremely worrying picture.

smiddy3

Its very good that the top of the JW/WT chain hirearchy resist changes to their procedures in these child abuse cases in some ways and take legal steps to try and keep it out of the public eye ,because it shows the WT religion of Jehovah`s Witnesses up for what they are .

And it certainly puts them in a very bad light as far as the public views things.I hope the media gives this good coverage and exposes them for everybody to see.

Its similar here with the redress scheme That the JW religion is reluctant to join,and I hope they don`t because it will put them in such a bad light with the authorities and they will get negative press for not doing so.

The more they are exposed ,the less people will join the cult and it might just wake a few more people up .

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The Simpson's APU is now NOT politically correct...

by The Fall Guy in

...so he's being cut from the the programme.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51158261.

the world is going bonkers!

smiddy3

This bloody political correctness thing has got beyond a bloody joke .Who the bloody hell do these bloody thought police think they bloody are to impose their bloody thoughts on the rest of us .

A pox on these bloody imbeciles for imposing their bloody ideas on the rest of us .

A bloody minority dictating to a bloody majority on what they bloody hell we can see and hear in a bloody free country ?

What`s next ? A bloody world full of Jehovah`s Witnesses who are going to tell us how to live ?

Bloody hell that truly would be hell on earth .

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Flood over everest

by road to nowhere in

meeting part comment on how the flood covered everest.

that is even more ignorant than mountains being pushed up and eroding in a few thousand years.

and it wasnt cold either.. i should have commented on the bristlecone in the awake that survived the flood.

smiddy3

Whats that weather pattern that causes updrafts over the seas into very high altitudes ,carrys it along for miles and then drops it over land , on mountain tops etc.? Tornadoes would probably do the same thing .

I don`t suppose JW`s have ever heard of that phenonomen .

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Some of the Dutch investigation conclusions leaked

by Gorbatchov in

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#title error changed.

this is the news report:.

researchers: place jehovah’s under stricter state control

smiddy3

Thank you for that info Gorby ,I hope the victims get the justice in that country that they deserve.

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I.B.S.A. members were witnesses of Jesus Christ.-JW`s members are witnesses of Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

is there a difference ?

i believe so ,and a very big difference.one that harmonises with the new testament in bearing witness to jesus and his kingdom and one that amounts to a new gospel bearing witness to jehovah and his kingdom something that is condemned in the bible.. c.t.russell started the magazine called "zions watchtower and herald of christs presence" and its emphasis was on bearing witness about jesus christ and his kingdom ,of course he got many things wrong ,but he was focused on jesus & his kingdom with what the new testament is all about.. j.f.rutherford in his wisdom decided to change the heading of the watchtower to " the watchtower announcing jehovah`s kingdom" a phrase / term / doctrine that is not in the new testament and takes away the importance and role that jesus christ has in bringing people to god.phil.2:9-11. nowhere in the christian greek scriptures / new testament are followers of jesus christ instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,nowhere there is not one scripture that instructs them to do so.. however in the christian greek scriptures / new testament there are over twenty scriptures whereby christians are told to be witnesses of jesus.. and it was by divine providence that followers of christ were to be called christians .acts 11:26 , not jehovah`s witnesses.. do jw`s even know what it means " by divine providence " ?.

the jw`s use isaiah 43:10-12 an old testament scripture to justify calling themselves jehovah`s witnesses,however that was applied to the israelites back then ,did they adopt the name jehovah`s witnesses ?

smiddy3

The Bible is supposedly God`s inspired word ,the Bible writers were inspired by God to write down what he wanted people to know. 2Pet.1:20,21...The entire Bible is inspired by God and beneficial, 2Ti.3:16,17 , Rom.15:4

In the hebrew scriptures ,O.T. God made his name Jehovah / Yahweh known under that inspiration and writings .

In the Christian Greek Scriptures, N.T. God see`s fit not to have the Tetragrammaton ,the four letters that represent his name in those writings ,why not ?

Because he wants his worshipers to focus on a new name ,a name that god says now is above every other name and that is the name Jesus.

Not Jehovah but Jesus.Ph.2:9-11 This is the inspired word of God we are reading.

So while God is using Jesus / Christianity as a means of reconciling people to God ,followers of Jesus /Christians should be focusing on and bearing witness to Jesus and Jesus alone ,not Jehovah .

It may very well be that after the one thousand year reign of Jesus Christ is over God will then want people to bear witness to himself Jehovah / Yahweh,but not before according to his inspired word.

For after the thousand years Jesus turns everthing back over to God

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Hellooooo! 6 years since i posted

by Aussie Oz in

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so... it has been six years since my last post.

i wonder who still remembers me?

a lot has changed and then again, a lot has not.... i'm still out of course as are my children who are doing very well.

smiddy3

Good to hear from you OZ ,Of course i remember you .I`m glad to hear your living the best life there is .

Take care cobber.

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Watchtower said " Worship Jesus"

by UnDisfellowshipped in

"make sure of all things" book, page 85, column 1:

" (matt.

in the revelation, which god gave jesus, the pure worship is shown as due to be given to the most high god, jehovah.

smiddy3

As a Jehovah's Witness, which elements of proskyneo above do you practice?

The average JW would not have a clue what your talking about .

And i`m pretty sure the average Elder would not know what your talking about .

I`m not too sure whether any G.B. member would know either .

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Outcast Doctrines

by Socrateswannabe in

in a recent post about the watchtower’s claim that all animals were created as vegetarians, one commenter said that watchtower could no longer sustain this belief so they simply stopped talking about it.

i began thinking about other wacky doctrines and statements by the borg that have faded away.

i’ll offer two of them below, but the complete list must be longer than your arm.. 7000 year-long creative days: watchtower once taught that each of the creative days was 7,000 years in duration, hence the hype leading up to 1975. they believed that year marked 6,000 years since adam’s creation, and oh how nicely the 1,000-year reign would fit as the last piece of the puzzle, thus completing the final “day”.

smiddy3

The Superior Authorities went through some gymnastics also over the years ,first it was the powers that be in govt and law enforcement ,then it became exclusively only applying to Jehovah and Christ Jesus and then again another backflip to reverting back to the govt`s and law enforcement.

You can`t make this stuff up ,they are a joke .

Are you aware that it was the second time they came up with the end of 6 thousand years of human history ?

C.T.Russell had previously identified the end of 6 thousand years in his writings which would have occured I think about 40 years previously? if my memory serves me correct .

Organ transplants were equated with cannalbalism .

Vaccinations were a no no.

Miracle wheat was another one they advertised.

Millions now living Will never Die , Millions now Living May never Die , two different versions.

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Australian Bethel propose building a media complex

by Listener in

there's a post on exjw reddit stating that the ibsa are planning on building a media operation at the sydney bethel.. the estimated cost is $10 million aud and this in spite of the fact that they still have not joined the redress scheme or attempted in any monetary way of assisting abused victims within the organization.. the link below includes detailed plans.

they will be converting part of the current printery into a media complex.. they also propose to build a theme park in the form of a historical biblical site, including a man made mound and what one person suggests is a temple.. its not surprising that a bunch of old men in new york has dreamed all of this up - film sets in new york, england and now australia.

they are bonkers but it's a novel way of getting money from their followers.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ernz3y/new_media_centre_at_the_australian_sydney_bethel/.compact.

smiddy3

Obviousl;y the G.B. do not believe Armageddon is just around the corner or coming anytime soon.

And yes as has been pointed out ,they have not joined the redress scheme to compensate Child Sexual Abuse Victims ,yet they have 10 million $$$$ to spend in such a hair brained scheme as this .

They truly are delusional and away with the fairies.

I hope the Govt. of Australia are well aware of where the G.B.of Jehovah`s witnesses have their priorities and its not with the victims of Child sexual Abuse.

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I.B.S.A. members were witnesses of Jesus Christ.-JW`s members are witnesses of Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

is there a difference ?

i believe so ,and a very big difference.one that harmonises with the new testament in bearing witness to jesus and his kingdom and one that amounts to a new gospel bearing witness to jehovah and his kingdom something that is condemned in the bible.. c.t.russell started the magazine called "zions watchtower and herald of christs presence" and its emphasis was on bearing witness about jesus christ and his kingdom ,of course he got many things wrong ,but he was focused on jesus & his kingdom with what the new testament is all about.. j.f.rutherford in his wisdom decided to change the heading of the watchtower to " the watchtower announcing jehovah`s kingdom" a phrase / term / doctrine that is not in the new testament and takes away the importance and role that jesus christ has in bringing people to god.phil.2:9-11. nowhere in the christian greek scriptures / new testament are followers of jesus christ instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,nowhere there is not one scripture that instructs them to do so.. however in the christian greek scriptures / new testament there are over twenty scriptures whereby christians are told to be witnesses of jesus.. and it was by divine providence that followers of christ were to be called christians .acts 11:26 , not jehovah`s witnesses.. do jw`s even know what it means " by divine providence " ?.

the jw`s use isaiah 43:10-12 an old testament scripture to justify calling themselves jehovah`s witnesses,however that was applied to the israelites back then ,did they adopt the name jehovah`s witnesses ?

smiddy3

There is much to think about with all of the comments so far,it almost got me to thinking the Bible had Jehovah and Jesus as the same being ,or at least his equal previiously in coming to earth and the only inferiority attributed to Jesus was when he came to earth and was born as a human. Gen.1:26

You do make an interesting argument SBF in defense of the NT jews understanding what Jesus name signified ,however unlike the explicit scriptures stated throughout the NT highlighting the name of Jesus ,there still is no such scripture in the NT that explicitly states that Christians are to be witnesses of Jehovah.

And I believe that is a very important point to make.One that every Jehovah`s Witness should be aware of.

This quote from Coftys earlier post some years ago.

it would seem reasonable to say that Jehovah's Witnesses do not speak about Jesus in the same manner as early Christians did. The apostles described themselves as witnesses of Jesus, they called him their only owner and Lord, and the one to whom they belonged. They were baptised in his name, led by his Spirit, rejoiced in his blessing and overflowed with praise for him. All of these statements are incompatible with the beliefs and practice of Jehovah's Witnesses.

And Jehovah`s Witnesses claim they have based their religion on 1st century Christianity .