how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?
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How could he be, regardless of how God impregnated Mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the Bible.
Mary was subjected to the Adamic sin like all other humans, so Jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.
To believe otherwise is just deluding oneself IMHO .
The only way Jesus could have been really without sin is if God created him the same way he created Adam.
What do you think ?
does anyone know of examples where the watchtower used symbolic interpretation to twist the plain meaning of scripture?the only one that comes to my mind right now is in rev.
"then i heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of israel".. .
here, the wt would have us believe that the number of those sealed are literally 144k; but supposedly "israel" symbolically represents anointed jw's.
What about the seven trumpets of Revelation that were applied to the Conventions that started in cedar Point ohio ? in 1922 ?
If i remember correctly ? was stated in the revelation book we studied mid week.I found that a bit hard to swallow.
for any who can't (like me) muster the masochism necessary to sit through an 18-or-so hour commentary on a 30 minute talk from a certain famous/infamous commentator, here is a link to a transcript from splane's saturday afternoon "apostate" talk:.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ot7z2e/splanes_apostate_rant_transcription/.
there are many topics worthy of consideration, but this particular section really stood out to me:.
After all these thousands of years humans have been subjected to Satan being the God of this system of things, with all of the evil that has gone on , and apparently the very short time Adam and Eve lived in a paradise earth , ,who really is the Almighty God ?
Satan or Jehovah ?
I have to give some credit to Splane for being able to use the Bible to play any old tune you wish to play.
so in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.
he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.
he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.
Still no video or link about what Splane said ? And why did the OP say he thought that their were more apostates working on the inside ?
OK , I guess this answers that
,No matter how hard they try, there is always someone in the inside leaking videos or secret letters.
https://www.c21media.net/news/vice-doc-spotlights-jehovahs-witnesses/.
us cable network vice tv will debut an original documentary that claims to uncover corruption and abuse within the jehovah’s witnesses community.. vice versa: crusaders, which will air on july 28, is part of the channel’s vice versa brand, known for docs including fear of a black quarterback and the neglected pandemic.. the project comes from hollywood director aaron kaufman, who was shunned by his jehovah’s witness family after investigating paedophilia within the organisation.. crusaders is directed by kaufman and executive produced by lauren terp, as well as daniel levinson and robert fernandez for us-london prodco moxie pictures, and danny gabai and andrew freston for vice studios.
executive producing for vice tv is catherine whyte.. kaufman said: “after witnessing first-hand the cycle of abuse that runs deep within the jehovah’s witnesses, i could not rest until the dark truth of this organisation was brought to light.
I think this videro was very good for ex JW`s to see but not for non JW`s as an expose .
It was far too long for that it needs to be cut down to about 45 min.and hone in more on the negatives of the religion.
Just my opinion.
i wonder if they'll mention their religion?
it's part of the stupid current trend of calling black men "king".
here's the trailer:.
Well i`ll certainly watch it regardless of whether they mention the religion or not ,you gotta admit they were/are great tennis players.
https://www.c21media.net/news/vice-doc-spotlights-jehovahs-witnesses/.
us cable network vice tv will debut an original documentary that claims to uncover corruption and abuse within the jehovah’s witnesses community.. vice versa: crusaders, which will air on july 28, is part of the channel’s vice versa brand, known for docs including fear of a black quarterback and the neglected pandemic.. the project comes from hollywood director aaron kaufman, who was shunned by his jehovah’s witness family after investigating paedophilia within the organisation.. crusaders is directed by kaufman and executive produced by lauren terp, as well as daniel levinson and robert fernandez for us-london prodco moxie pictures, and danny gabai and andrew freston for vice studios.
executive producing for vice tv is catherine whyte.. kaufman said: “after witnessing first-hand the cycle of abuse that runs deep within the jehovah’s witnesses, i could not rest until the dark truth of this organisation was brought to light.
I thank you Mary Miller for making that available for the likes of me.
if you were born in, do you count from the year of your birth, when you gave your first presentation at the door, (i was five),.
when you became an unbaptized publisher, (i was about 12), or when you dedicated your life to god,(org) and took the plunge?
what could you have done with all of this time?
I became interested in 1959 ,was baptised in 1960 and left in 1993 ,so i usually claim I was a JW for 32 years give or take a year or two.
did you ever had a over zealous brother/sister with tales that where even told from the platform on how gee-hovah did things for this person at nausea.
just made you sick.
an insult to one's intelligence.
I vaguely rember something about an Elders wife who was a friend of ours saying something about how Jehovah has blessed them in selling their house ,and my wife just responded to her "well its good for some isnt it "
and that stopped her in her tracks.
i realize that some activist exjws really don’t seem to be happy in life.
they finally got away from the organization and yet seem still negatively connected to it.
some exjws are always upset because of what the “truth “ did to their lives, which is understandable.
When i was a JW I was happy beleiving what i did.Why wouldn`t one be .? looking forward to such a wonderful prospect in life ?
Coming to grips about TTATT I am happy I am no longer deluded into beleiving such a pie in the sky fantasy.
And I am enjoying living a life free from fear of a God whose going to zap me because I dont meet up with the GB restrictions in life that they would weigh me down with.
