Ask a JW to show you one scripture that explicitly states that the UN is going to destroy religions.,just one.?
smiddy3
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What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?
by devout_no_more infirst of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.
i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".
frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.
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Watchtower admits false prophesy in Court of Law!
by digderidoo ina false prophesy was promulgated?
q. it had to be accepted by jehovah's witnesses?
q. error?
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smiddy3
Bump for newbies .
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What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?
by devout_no_more infirst of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.
i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".
frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.
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smiddy3
I think their are about 1.8 Billion Muslims in the world ,and around 1.2 Billion Catholics and probably a similar number of Protestants and that doesn`t include all of the other religions scattered throughout the earth.
The UN is not and never has been or ever will be a world power .
Their is even talk it should be disbanded because it is in some ways so ineffective ?
And as AA points out its in favor of religious freedoms for all .
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What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?
by devout_no_more infirst of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.
i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".
frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.
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smiddy3
devout_no_more
Welcome to the forum .
Firstly I think the UN is really just a paper tiger that nations use to either support or veto any proposal that is put forth according to their own agenda.
Secondly This article is just one persons opinion and interpretation of what the intentions of the UN would like to see happen but there is no way on earth they could enforce any of what she suggests.
But that`s just my opinion.
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Kingdom Hall Sales
by lastmanstanding invideo conferencing systems are being installed in kingdumb halls.
this is being charged to the congregations.. the ability to video conference, zoom, directly from the halls will now be the thing.. i believe that the current situation has given the wts an idea.. if there are two kingdom halls in an area, then one can be sold.. congregations will split the use, half using the hall one week and zooming the next and visa versa..
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smiddy3
alanv ,I don`t think they need to build new KH`s ,hasn`t "quick build" died the death now ? I truly think they are gradually going the way Televangelists have gone decades b4 them .and think its a blessing from Jehovah that they have done so.?
Selling KH`s and Branch Offices around the world will give them huge amounts of $$$$$ to tide them over while they, the G.B. are still alive . And I don`t think they care too much what happens after that .
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Are Ex-JW's Suffering From Burn Out?
by IWant2Leave inthe reason that i ask is, in the two years on this forum and you tube, i've seen ex-jw's either drop off entirely or make fewer and fewer videos.
i know the emotional toll can be high.
is that the sole reason, or is it cost (video) or do you think it's external pressure (legal or family)?
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smiddy3
Are you OK stan ? Are you sure your OK ??
Are we on the same forum ? I have no indications whatsoever that what you are saying/indicating has any element of truth in it ?
Would you care to elaborate on any of these claims you have made ? its pretty serious you know to make such claims with no evidence to back up what you are inferring.?
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Number of Kingdom Halls Worldwide
by wachttorenkijker inhow many kingdom halls are there worldwide?
even better how many in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.. i'm asking this to get a picture of the total real estate owning of the jw and how this become to the money-cow in these days..
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wachttorenkijker
Welcome to this forum,an interesting first post .I think it could be interesting not only in the sell off of KH`s and the mergings taking place ,but also the sell off and mergings of Branch Officers around the world that have taken place these last few years .?
Can anybody help with this ?
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Are Ex-JW's Suffering From Burn Out?
by IWant2Leave inthe reason that i ask is, in the two years on this forum and you tube, i've seen ex-jw's either drop off entirely or make fewer and fewer videos.
i know the emotional toll can be high.
is that the sole reason, or is it cost (video) or do you think it's external pressure (legal or family)?
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smiddy3
1234 ,and DOC ,pretty much sums up the reason I post on here ,and I certainly haven`t experienced the hurt and anger that a lot of people have expressed ,thankfully.
I was a convert and the only family that did have anything to do with the religion were basically brought in by me and now except for one niece they have all left the JW`s.That`s about 10 people who have no interest at all in sites like this they all have productive lives to lead and are happy to be free .
For me it`s just an interest to communicate with you guys and hope that I help someone along the way.
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Dose age and the reasons for leaving affect the out come
by joe134cd infirstly for anyone leaving is don’t get involved in alcohol, drugs, parties, and sleeping around, because it will just come back and bite you in the arse.. i have a theory that those who leave the religion at an older age do better than those who leave at a younger age.
i think to that the reasons for leaving are quite different between the age groups.
i sometimes wonder if many of the under 30’s use the short comings of the religion, as an excuse to pursue the above mentioned life style.
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smiddy3
Its complete bullshit that the JW/WT religion teaches that when a person leaves the religion they will start dabbling in immoral practices sleeping around getting into drugs ,joining the occult and becoming involved in whatever else the religion forbids .
None of this ever happens .OK maybe one or two people that would have done it anyway while still being a Jehovah`s Witness.
While I think of it their are/were many indulging in those practices while still being a member of the religion ,they were just leading double lives and never got found out.
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An old JW friend got back to me ,Phillipine Convention experience and my reply.
by smiddy3 inthis link had to do with the experience that was given by a young witness pioneer in the phillipines convention and her take was on return to jehovah .. an old time friend from the past sent me this link a couple of weeks ago trying to encourage me to come back to the religion and asked me what i thought of it ?.
i said i would if she could reply to my 2 questions first fair enough ?
so far i haven`t heard back from her and i will let you know if and when i do.. the 2 questions i asked her was to do with jehovah`s name and the christian greek scriptures ,especially the ki publication the wt brought out ,the word for word greek to english that didn`t have an equivalent greek word for jehovah .. and the other one was to do with the charge that was given to christians ,followers of jc to witness about jesus with over 20 such scriptures and not one saying anything about being a witness for jehovah anywhere in the nt.. over the years she has always still kept in touch, a little bit eccentric and we had a lot to do with her family and mine back in the day when we were all believers .. .and she is not backward in coming forward about having a go at the elders who she doesn`t agree with .. at the time i looked at the link and have posted somewhere else about it on this forum and mentioned i didn`t see anything about "returning to jehovah" in it .. anyway this was a few weeks ago and i was still waiting to hear from her..today we got mail from her ,,slow mail ,even though we have each others e-mail address .and in the envelope was only the wt "return to jehovah " and inside a $50 note.?.
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smiddy3
Of course BB and anymore she wants to send LOL ,and i do think we jokingly said it will take a lot more than a $50 here or there to sway us to go back.
They say every man or woman has his/her price ,nah, all the tea in China or all the money in the world would not tempt us ,NO WAY.