NZ: Just get a PIMO elder to go online a get a copy of it.
I would if I knew any PIMO elders. But I don’t. That’s why I posted the question here.
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22You May Now Embrace the Bride!
by jp1692 injust yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.
no kissing.
just a hug.
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You May Now Embrace the Bride!
by jp1692 injust yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.
no kissing.
just a hug.
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Biahi: They discuss seriously inappropriate sexual things in the meetings. Can’t wait til someone still attending says a 6 or 7 year old gives a talk on masturbation or oral sex. Lol
I was the Theocratic Ministry School Overseer for 14 years.
Whenever we would have a talk like this I would always either take it myself or assign it to an elder even if the instructions said that particular talk should be assigned to a young person.
Once, on a talk about masturbation, the elder I assigned it to tried to call me on it. The conversation went something like this:
Uber Elder: Why'd you give me this assignment? The instructions said it should be assigned to a youth or newer person.
JP: Yeah, I know, but can you imagine a child talking about masturbation in front of the entire congregation? It'd be embarrassing. Besides, which child in our congregation do you think I should assign it to?
Uber Elder: You should be following "theocratic direction," brother.
JP: Right. I noticed you didn't answer my question. But since you brought it up, the "theocratic direction" for the TMS Overseer in situations like this is that I should use my discretion to assign "sensitive material" like this to a more experienced brother. And I figured you have plenty of experience with this subject.
Uber Elder: What is that supposed to mean?
JP: You know what it means.
He just glared at me.
I laughed and walked away.
He gave the talk.
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You May Now Embrace the Bride!
by jp1692 injust yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.
no kissing.
just a hug.
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Blondie, quoting the WT: "This might offend or distract some ... [and] those who got a glimpse of such conduct might be stumbled."
We all remember how often the Don't Be Stumbling Others dictum was trotted out by the WTBTS whenever they wanted to control or eliminate a behavior they didn't like. And as much as it seemed like a good idea, it never really worked out that way.
Why not?
In one of his books (sorry, but I don't have the reference handy) Ray Franz observed that the inevitable end result of applying this indiscriminately is that the people with the weakest consciences—those that are the most easily offended—end up being the ones that determine the culture of a congregation.
So instead of having the more mature, balanced people setting the tone and standards of the group, it is set by the least mature and most unbalanced individuals.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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You May Now Embrace the Bride!
by jp1692 injust yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.
no kissing.
just a hug.
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sir82: "no kissing allowed in the Kingdom Hall! Think of the children!"
That's ironically funny, but very likely true. I've been involved with more than a few "something-seriously-stuck-up-their-collective-patooties BOE" that seem to forget how children are made!
Personally, I've only made two children, but I certainly have enjoyed practicing!
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You May Now Embrace the Bride!
by jp1692 injust yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.
no kissing.
just a hug.
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jp1692
Just yesterday, a PIMI JW that I've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in Pennsylvania, USA, the "Brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "You may now embrace the bride." And they did.
No kissing. Just a hug.
AWKWARD!
I've been out of this cult for over a decade, so I don't know much about the latest in JW wedding ceremony protocols or practices. And in many ways I don't really care, but I am curious: Is this a new thing among JWs everywhere, or is it just a local aberration?
Even the PIMI JW that told me about it thought it was weird. (Yes, they actually used the word "weird" to describe how they felt about this.)
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Recently Disfellowshipped
by PersonOfGlitter inhi i’m getting disfellowshipped on thursday and was wondering what advice those that have left have for me.
i’m not sure if i still believe or not.
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Welcome to the Forum, PoG!
You've a rough road ahead of you, that's for sure.
Not everyone has the same experience, but it isn't easy to be kicked out of an organization that you've invested in emotionally, with your time, maybe your family and possibly even financially.
That being said, you're life will be so much better now that you're out of this cult. And yes: It is a cult.
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Do You Think People Should Be Scorned For Wearing A Red MAGA Hat?
by minimus indo you support free choice to wear a political hat or article of clothing?
if someone wants to put a bumper sticker on their car in support of a political candidate or party, should they be able to do it without fear of being maligned or abused?
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Freedom of speech and freedom of choice do not somehow magically protect people from the consequences of their actions.
The people that don't agree have just as much right to voice their disagreement or disapproval as those that make a public statement.
These rights go both ways. That's the beauty of it. Embrace it.
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highlights from Circuit Overseer Guidelines
by neat blue dog ini just finished looking through the circuit overseer manual, so here are some highlights.
first up, regarding circuit assemblies:.
if a brother is so extremely overweight that others would be distracted if he had a part on the program, good judgment would need to be used in deciding whether to give him an assignment.
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Brothers recommended to serve as substitute circuit overseers must not have viewed pornography within the last two years.
Why two years? And wouldn't it matter what kind of pornography and how frequently he viewed it?
So many arbitrary rules.
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Powerful Sayings That Means A Lot For You Personally
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara injust was thinking how some powerful quotes, remarks, sayings hit the mark with me and how much it enriched/ enhamced/influences my life.
love beyond color.
reality is that which when you no longer believe in it , does not go away.. “the truth is a battle of perceptions.
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It ain’t love if it’s conditional!
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Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?
by minimus inrecently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.
he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.
i’ve known him for many years.
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- Learn critical thinking skills
- Actively seek out and compare differing points of view
I recommend a news service such as The Flip Side which every day “scours 30+ publications to find the most thoughtful and informed perspectives on major issues” from across the political spectrum.