God's rest day was right after the creation. The stuff about a "7th 1000 year period of the 7th creative day" is made up nonsense from Franz. He used it to imply that 1975 would mark a specific point on God's timetable, making it seem as if Armageddon had to occur at that time. He would occasionally insist that he wasn't setting any dates, knowing how much trouble Rutherford created with his 1925 predictions. But JWs understood what he meant, just as they "understood" the revised claims that were made after the fact.
TonusOH
JoinedPosts by TonusOH
-
6
A list of failed predictions of Christ's Return
by fulltimestudent insomeone associated with wikipedia has compiled this list of the many failed predictions of christ's return.
the predictions seem to come from many believers across a spectrum of various religions.
it does however, miss one that we would be aware of, freddy franz's 1975.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/predictions_and_claims_for_the_second_coming.
-
-
-
26
More money and meeting with 3 elders
by Foolednomore inso, we had this meeting with 3 elders ( larry, moe and curly) my uncle who is the lawyer sat in the room and stayed quiet, and fact for 40 minutes we let them talk.
we would just sit there.
they went into along winded monolog about how the world is in bad shape and getting worst.
-
-
TonusOH
That should put an end to it. Anyone bringing up the organization's past scares the daylights out of them, if they have even a tiny inkling about it. And if they tell HQ about what happened, they will be told in strict terms not to discuss it and to forget anything they heard and stay far away from anyone pushing such "lies."
The history of the JWs is the one thing that could topple the whole religion in the shortest time.
-
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
-
-
TonusOH
Simon: Defamation is meaningless without damages - i.e. some demonstrably material impact on your income.
The "demonstrable" part would be the real problem for him. He could claim damages, and point out his income loss after this all started. But he would need to demonstrate that it was from any defamatory statements. Since he confirmed many of the claims, those are not actionable, and any income loss from those claims would not be valid. In other words, he would need to get statements from his patrons explaining that it was specifically any defamatory claims that caused them to drop support.
And that assumes that he can demonstrate that anyone made defamatory claims. So far, his only response to requests for examples is that he doesn't have to demonstrate them until the proceedings are underway. A standard that doesn't seem to apply to pretty much anything else related to his case.
But let's put aside the issue that there don't seem to be any actionable claims. And let's also imagine that he somehow got 450+ patrons to agree to testify as to why they dropped support. Can you imagine what a shitshow that would be? Person after person explaining that it was enough to know that he was cheating on his wife and two young children for them to stop giving him money. Who would want to go on the stand and say "I had no issue with him visiting prostitutes regularly though he was married with two little girls, or leaving them behind to date a sex worker in Thailand, but this other thing would have been too much"?
If he wants to write a book about the whole experience, he should title it That Time That I Kept Stepping on Rakes. Or How to Ruin Your Life in Two Easy Steps.
-
26
ARMAGEDDON
by Lost in the fog incan i ask please especially for all who are pomo?.
we've taken a decision similar to revelation 18:4 to get out of the watchtower and not share in its sins.. how many of you still believe that god will one day terminate the world's many systems by means of an armageddon?.
-
-
TonusOH
If there is a god, I hope it has a better imagination than that.
-
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
-
-
TonusOH
The peak number was around 887, if I recall correctly.
I don't think he's gay. He supports the LGBT community openly, so I don't think he would feel any reason to hide it. He seems too open about his sex life. I shudder to think of what he would have kept from the public, if he still has any secrets in that area of his life.
-
94
Will Ukraine win?
by Fisherman ini was under the impression that it was going to be a short war, that russia’s military would indeed subdue ukraine’s forces quickly but that is not happening.
seems that russia’s military power is much less than it’s reputed to be.
no guess how it will all end..
-
-
TonusOH
On the bright side, no JW has managed to make it to his doorstep alive in the past eleven years.
-
27
Ron DeSantis: "We do not require assistance. The people of Florida will rebuild on our own"
by BettyHumpter inas if.no, of course he's already asking for federal aid.
it's the republican way.
florida needs the rest of the country to pitch in taxpayer dollars because it's different when it happens to me.
-
-
TonusOH
Is it me, or does that map show that around half of all Americans are crammed into the northeast? We really did a shitty job of dispersing.
-
5
Was PARADISE really paradise?
by Terry inparadise.
was it really paradise to be in paradise?
adam and eve never were held by a mother, never cuddled and sung to with a lullaby nor nursed or coddled with tenderness or any human familial embrace.
-
-
TonusOH
I would assume that God pre-loaded his mind with some programming so that he wasn't confused when he first became conscious. That's a fascinating idea, that Adam's first seconds after being created might have felt familiar, even though he only began to exist in that moment. It would have to be, otherwise the sensory overload would have been crippling... seeing for the first time and taking in all of that new visual information, feeling the grass beneath him and the air and wind around him, the smells of the flowers teasing his nostrils and the sounds of any animals tickling his ears.
He would know all these things and feel comfortable, but at the same time he was a blank slate. Those first moments would be his entire existence. He would be forming his first memories right there, right then. Would he have been programmed to recognize the voice of God, and understand who He was? And geez, the conversation about that thing hanging between his legs would have been pretty awkward, because when isn't it?
-
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
-
-
TonusOH
lloydevansparody, I was being facetious. No one believes that Evans thinks he is to blame for his problems. I think that is a very satisfying thing for his critics and victims: he may never have a moment of clarity and recognize the damage he has done to others and to himself. He will not redeem himself. He will keep digging, right on through past rock-bottom.
-
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
-
-
TonusOH
Vintage: Lloyd wanted to sue those who did the most to expose his depravity.
And then he realized that the person at the top of that list is... Lloyd Evans.