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  Great Sites For Watchtower INFO

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  if you are looking for pre-1950 watchtower mags, try.

  https://wtarchive.wordpress.com/english/zions-watch-tower/.

  how about pdfs.

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  TonusOH

  Oh, that is an instant bookmark!

  Thank you, Vanderhoven7.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Toblerone5: I'm french ,do english peoples use this word hoodlum?

  It's a familiar term in the USA, though I recall that long ago it was meant to refer to members of organized crime groups. These days it is used to refer to any common small-time criminal or ne'er-do-well. The word is also often shortened to 'hood.'
  
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  Apostates apparently have their own terminology

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

  "those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

  “8 old men in new york”,.

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  How about this one: If the shoe fits, wear it.
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  Watchtower lawyer fined for misleading the court

  by Diogenesister in

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  watchtower lawyer david brumley has been fined for misleading the court during the discovery process of the montana case.

  the result was another 17 months of the courts time and the plaintiff having to produce evidence that wtpa did have a pivotal role in congregational business, which brumley had denied hoping that the courts would take his word for it.

  he will be personally responsible for reimbursing the costs accrued by the plaintiff, due to his misleading affidavit.. see mark o donnell's twitter statement here:https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1562205475374043136?t=emdh163jnfi8kb6zch-uga&s=19.

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  Listener: This is in the Nivember 2022 Watchtower

  That's an interesting paragraph. They point out that the Russian brothers support each other by showing up in court, but they make sure not to specifically encourage that behavior elsewhere, choosing instead of ask that they find "other practical ways" to support one another.

  My guess is that they don't want JWs showing up during these court proceedings, where they might learn things that the WTS prefers they only hear from the organization's mouth.
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  Remember THIS illustration from the Borg?

  by BoogerMan in

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  bible teach chap.

  11 pp.

  110-111 par.

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  punkofnice: The term CULT springs to mind.

  That's what it is. Question everything, except what we tell you.

  The WTS stance, for a very long time, has been to give the impression that you can test what they say with the Scriptures to see if they are being truthful. But what they are specifically saying is that, if you test what they say with the Scriptures, you will see that they are being truthful. It's not a subtle difference! The latter is making clear that if you disagree with them, you are going against the will of Jehovah and are at risk of eternal death.

  And it is not a matter of whether they got it right or wrong, but whether you followed them. If you test them and find that they got it wrong and you got it right, Jehovah is upset at you for getting too far ahead of his 'light.'
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  Pursue Peace Assembly 2022 .. Joseph shares stories about his Bible days

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  pursue peace assembly 2022 shows a resurrected, newly shaven joseph, the son of jacob and rachel, having a nice dinner at a beautiful restaurant in the new system.

  the survivors of armageddon all want to know if joseph can share stories about his life.. ''can you tell us what egypt was like?

  what was pharaoh like?''.

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  The part they did not show is when, at some point during the meal, the group starts reminiscing about food in the old system and they talk about eating bacon and pork sausage and how much they miss it. Then they hear a retching sound and turn to find Joseph yakking up his salad in horror.
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  A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

  by Fisherman in

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  obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

  and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

  in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

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  Amusing: on that wikiHow page, the side panel showed me this:

  
  
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  Local congregation donation and expense report. Very telling

  by nowwhat? in

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  in july the congregation received $2300.00.

  only 40.00 for the worldwide work and zero for ramapo project!!!.

  if this is typical no wonder the org.

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  If that's a typical month, then for a year it would be:

  Ramapo needs: $0

  Worldwide needs: $480

  Local needs: $27,120

  WTS is going to ransack that congregation, lol.
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  Naked in the New World

  by neat blue dog in

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  i know there was a painting of a woman being resurrected naked and someone coming to greet her holding clothes, but what about after perfection, after the thousand years?.

  the idea is we're supposed to achieve what adam lost by returning to human perfection, so wouldn't that include not wearing clothes, especially as the act of adam and eve hiding in the trees and sewing fig leaves signified shame, and imperfection passed on through the reproductive organs.

  has the wt ever addressed this?

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  truth_b_known: Only after eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Bad did Adam realize he was naked.

  That's one of the strangest parts of the Bible, IMO. Why, in that scenario, would nudity have been "bad"? I mean, talk about terrible writing: whoever came up with this idea was... trying to explain why people have to... wear clothing? And that was his best guess? "nudity is evil"?
  

  Even if we accept it as a metaphor of some kind, it's awfully clumsy. Adam and Eve gain the ability to discern right from wrong, and their first thought is "whoa, we're naked!" Really? You mean like every other living creature around you?
  
  
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  If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

  ' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

  ' what do you folks say?.

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  I dunno about that. I've met some people that were preternaturally stupid. It might even have been possible to prove it scientifically.