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  JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  september 2022 study watchtower - par.

  14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.

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  Ding: Sounds like they updated one paragraph with "new light" but not another.

  If this was an RPG, they would claim that their Sword of a Thousand New Truths had malfunctioned, or something.
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  Do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?........

  david splane........ powerful by faith convention 2021 video.

  please i got an excerpt of this from another video but the response by david splane is not included.

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  Hellothere: Sorry but I do think they believe what they write.

  I get what you are saying, and a part of me thinks you are right. But it is also difficult to comprehend-- these are men who know about the false predictions and all of the strange things that were written and said in the past. They have to know, I cannot imagine how they are not aware of the organization's past. How can they know these things and still feel they are in the right?

  And yet, I have known men who were in for decades and believed devoutly, even though I know that they had to know of that history (because some had even lived it!). The way our minds can wall off thoughts and ideas that make us uncomfortable is as amazing as it is troubling.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LMsA: Lloyd did quite well with green handshakes and I can’t even remember an overseas trip that wasn’t funded at least in part by the local JWs. I know of at least two such donors who would send him $100-$200 a month through PayPal and have now stopped.

  During his confessional livestream (where he was admitting to cheating on his wife with prostitutes for years), there was at least one person offering to pay for a vacation for him and his family as a way of helping him deal with the stressful situation he was in. The fact that he had created that situation did not deter people from offering what would have been a gift of a few thousand dollars, at least. (To say nothing of the $3000 or so that was donated during that same livestream!)

  People who are waiting for him to run out of funds might have to wait a while. Until the last of his really generous donors decides to walk away, he'll have a surprising amount of money coming in each month.
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  Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

  full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

  the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

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  The damage that has been done by the attitude of "let Jehovah take care of your needs" is enormous. How many families scraped by for years, secure in the belief that God would provide and that they would not need to worry about their later years since Armageddon was near? How many of them realized, only too late, that they were facing a lengthy period of deprivation and suffering because God did not provide and the end did not arrive? How many of them are even aware that others like them are the reason the GB lives so well, using them up like paper towels and discarding them when they are no longer useful?
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  Mega Millions Jackpot…

  by Biahi in

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  in the us, our mega millions lottery jackpot has reached over 1billion dollars!

  what would you do if you won?

  i think i’d run public service announcements on television, alerting people of the dangers of the wt cult, among other things.

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  First, I'd change my phone number. Second, I would practice saying "no" for hours, in preparation for all of the hands that will show up all of a sudden.

  Then I'd buy a box of donuts and start enjoying the good life!
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  JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  september 2022 study watchtower - par.

  14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.

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  You must agree with the first statement. And then, five pages later, you must disavow the first statement and agree with the second one... or you are an apostate!
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  What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

  who is the way, the truth and the life?

  (john 14:6).

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  The WTS's argument is that any changes to the Bible did not change the meaning of the texts, and so the message remains as it always was. That certainly would not apply if the name of god had been removed from all of the NT texts. If your mission is to establish the worship of the true god, and that god's name has been wiped from the sacred texts you use to make your case... you cannot make your case.

  I mean, if the devil can make it so the name of god is removed from his own letters to mankind, then what changes and alterations are beyond his ability?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
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  original reddit post (removed).

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  ”If you were truly abused yourself, then you should feel some sympathy towards children who have their accusations of abuse ignored of even silenced…”

  That's him in a nutshell. Incapable of sympathy or empathy, convinced that he knows better than someone who experienced what he did not, gaslighting someone who claims to have been an abuse victim. And unafraid to show this side of himself to the world, because he does not really understand how it looks to everyone else, because he is the center of everyone's universe.

  100% sociopath.
  
  
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  All KH Bank accounts to close and all received contributions sent directly to the WT

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-c6yshtkqu.

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  Kim: What?!?! Seriously…..when did he say that? omg, I was a naive a x way to trusting/believing JW

  Most (if not all) of us were. If I'd heard Losche say that when I was PIMI, I would have nodded in agreement. They didn't just organize our lives, they spoke our thoughts for us. It's not really a surprise why so many remain in cults; what you see from the outside is very different from what they perceive on the inside.
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  All KH Bank accounts to close and all received contributions sent directly to the WT

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-c6yshtkqu.

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  World Trade Center.

  Just kidding... WatchTower Corp.