Chas is short for Charles, but that's an informal thing, like calling Robert 'Bob.' I don't recall the WTS ever referring to Russell that way, so it's odd that they wouldn't formalize it, unless it was some weird last request.
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Rosemont Cemetery II
by RolRod inokay, so here's a follow-up to my post a while back regarding the society tearing down the pyramid monument.
they cleared the area and this is what they did.
notice ... nothing about the watchtower connected to it, just slabs of cheap concrete..
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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TonusOH
...and tells the whole world about it.
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JW Science Quote (1-22)
by TD inthis week's installment in the science quotes of "celebrated jw scholars" concerns one of their perennial claims.
based on a literal reading of genesis 1:30, jehovah's witnesses believe and teach that all animals were orginally designed to be vegetarians and that the restoration prophecies of isaiah foretell a return to this state.
this has been stated many times in jw literature:.. .
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TonusOH
The issue of 'how' never worried me: when you believe in a God that can do literally anything, a mass update of the DNA of every carnivore on the planet is just another "blink and it's done" moment.
The issue of 'why' is the one I did not consider until years after I had faded. Occasionally, YouTube would point me to 'nature' videos of the violent behavior of some animal species. They are quite disturbing. Apparently, there are species of pack animals that will wait for a pregnant female (say, a deer) to be in labor pains, and then they attack, literally ripping the offspring from her body and dragging it away to eat, leaving the mother badly injured and in shock.
And those aren't the most disturbing videos you can find. I've got a strong stomach, but there's so much I can watch before I pause the video and close the tab.
It makes no sense to me, the idea that there is an intelligent being who would design a world where peace was the operating principle, then turn it into a ghastly mirror image of itself for any reason. The idea that this being is the personification of love and kindness, yet would condemn the world to thousands of years of such unnecessary pain and horror and suffering is not logical or reasonable.
This being is so sensitive, that we are told He is aware of the passing of a small bird. So he must be watching when a crocodile grabs a water buffalo's leg and wrenches it hard enough to break it, then drags the horrified beast into the water to drown it, before tearing it to shreds and consuming it. Over and over and over, scenes like this happen all around the world. Day after day, year after year, for thousands of years. And this being watches it all. I am glad that I realized this only after coming to the conclusion that such a being doesn't exist.
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Is WT Influencing Dubs To Check On Other Dubs' Activities Via ZOOM And Otherwise?
by HiddlesWife inthe reason for my question is because one pimo has noticed that there are some pimis--particularly spimis--who have remarked that they "are not going to contact nor associate with the friends who are delinquent on zoom and/or at in-person kh meetings, conventions, and assemblies".
i've noticed this as well: a few ppimis and pimqs who were very close to me and my exdub family members are hearing from them less and less lately than before last year's rc and this year's rc.
so, is the above a thing nowadays?
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TonusOH
There is a point at which they will have committed sufficiently to "the end is here" that they will not be able to walk it back. I hope this leads a lot of die-hards to realize that they are being fed a line, and maybe some of them will reconnect with shunned family and seek out a faith that doesn't demand that they be bad people.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Atheism wouldn't require much of a tweak. Humans are social animals, and we seek out groups based on one or more similar interests/features. For many people who were religious, the 'atheist community' becomes a seemingly logical way to fill that role, so it becomes a surrogate religious community for them. Some will break away from that once they recognize it. I didn't want to get back into a religious community, I was happy to be free of it. I'd spent far too long proselytizing for a religion. The last thing I wanted to do was proselytize to get people out of religion.
You can see from some of Evans's posts that he is still in that part of it. He is still actively rejecting religion, instead of being free of it. He's also embracing the political side of the 'atheist community.' If you're not pandering to the extreme left, you can have a pretty rough time of it, so he's gone all-in. Whether that will be enough for them to overlook his treatment of women... let's just say he may be in for a bit of disappointment.
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Rosemont Cemetery II
by RolRod inokay, so here's a follow-up to my post a while back regarding the society tearing down the pyramid monument.
they cleared the area and this is what they did.
notice ... nothing about the watchtower connected to it, just slabs of cheap concrete..
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TonusOH
I think this is how they have finished discarding Charles Taze Russell. Just a name on a stone, now.
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Privacy commissioner orders North Okanagan Jehovah's Witnesses to hand over private records
by yalbmert99 inin b.c.
, canada, a victory for ex-jws.
https://infotel.ca/newsitem/privacy-commissioner-orders-north-okanagan-jehovahs-witnesses-to-hand-over-private-records/it92596.
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TonusOH
"(Jehovah’s Witness) elders share a deeply-held religious conviction that disclosing the records would violate their religious conscience and hinder their ability to spiritually shepherd congregants," the decision reads.
Well... if they did their jobs the way they claim they do, they would have no reason to fear having the records handed over. One can only imagine what the notes would reveal.
I'm betting that the WTS will tell them to resist the orders, no matter what. They will probably work the legal system in any way they can, and if they lose they will simply refuse to turn over the records. The real question is, what can the Privacy Commissioner do to them to force compliance? Fine them? Anything else?
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Throwing rice at wedding banned! J.W don't want you to have kids!
by Witness 007 inrutherford in his last book in 1942 ironic that it was called "children" told witnesses don't have any kids!!!
armageddon is just afew years away.
2022 many witnesses still live by this ideal...i have no kids at 50 years old because of this idiot!.
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TonusOH
This is what happened to Raymond Franz also, wasn't it? Between their work abroad and waiting for Paradise, they did not have children. There must be many JWs and exJWs in that boat. I never married or had kids myself, but I am not haunted by those decisions. Still, it is a reminder of just how large an impact (and not always for the better) the WTS has on the personal lives of so many people.
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I never had a happy birthday this year 5/7
by smiddy3 inmy wife had a hip replacement on june the 17th and while the op itself was apparently succesful ,she has had a reaction to the anesthetic ?
and has suffered delirium and is still in hospital with no apparent improvement.. its been very distressing for me to say the least.
sorry if i sound a bit morbid but i just had to share,.
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TonusOH
Sorry to hear it, Smiddy. Several years ago, my mother had a triple bypass and one of the medications they gave her made her paranoid and quite salty for around 36 hours. She was okay after that, though. I hope your wife recovers soon!
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2022-07-01--Additional Contribution Box!
by Atlantis inthe watchtower wants more money!.
https://we.tl/t-jyt0susog5.
atlantis!.
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TonusOH
Phizzy: Jehoober OWNS the Universe, all of it, including this tiny, insignificant Blue Planet, therefore, how come he cannot simply direct Funds and Wealth to his chosen Org. ? He did it for King Solomon.
And Russell had made it clear in the early days of the WTS, that he felt that God was the source of the organization's funding. That if the money ever dried up, it was God's way of telling the organization that their work was done. The organization now has more money and wealth than he ever did, but they are the ones who keep asking for more.