Nowwhat?,
Um.. im sure they would do private study groups if they can't worship freely. Ya know, like they did in Nazi Germany, in secret.
something tells me that the russian j dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that armageddon is upon us.
they will be sadly disappointed.
thoughts?.
Nowwhat?,
Um.. im sure they would do private study groups if they can't worship freely. Ya know, like they did in Nazi Germany, in secret.
something tells me that the russian j dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that armageddon is upon us.
they will be sadly disappointed.
thoughts?.
Something tells me that the Russian J Dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that Armageddon is upon us. They will be sadly disappointed. Thoughts?
seems legit
we all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
I agree with the above statements. The standards that the WT puts on their followers are incredibly high. I think some folks get overwhelmed and simply can't handle it anymore. They are constantly being told to do more and more and then in the back of their mind they know from their teachings that they still only "may" survive the end of this system of things.
so after a couple of years, i've finally re-established contact with a close relative (not revealing too much for privacy reasons).
it turns out that he is dfd (for the typical jw reasons, of course).
we caught up about a lot of things, including family.
Novice,
Yeah, apparently this is a common thing. My cousin was DF years ago, also for obvious JW reasons. Her mother told her not to associate with my worldly sister because she was bad association lmao. Ridiculous.
i loved going out in service, i would empty my book bag out on the counter at the laundromat, walk out and go get a doughnut, i had a lot of hours and placements on my time card.
i really hated talking to people, the anxiety was too much for me to handle, good thing my service partner felt the same way..
To me, the only fun to be had was just the association with my friends, the many starbucks breaks etc. But, as far as the act of going door to door, I outwardly had a zealous attitude, but deep down, I dreaded it and hoped the householder didn't answer.
no doubt we have all heard the statement from witnesses and christians in general that those who leave the faith only do so because they want to sin, or they feel guilty or whatever.... the reality is, i reckon we are all more "moral" now that we have left!.
many of us contribute to humanitarian efforts, community groups, welfare groups, etc.. many of us actually do something tangible to assist people.. we don't look with critical eyes on them or their lives.. and most importantly, we do not joyfully await the mass genocide of men, women, children and babies by a petty, jealous, and tyrannical god!.
thoughts?.
I agree with this. I was always confused as a JW why we didn't do charity work or do more to help the general public besides banging on their door at 10 am Saturday morning. Now that I am out of the Org, I feel that I am far less judgmental, more eager to help people and just overall a nicer person.
i have not been to a meeting for about 2 years now.
i do not intend to go back but one thing has me baffled.
why do ones that have faded and been out for years return?
Hi moreconfused,
In my opinion, they come back because brainwashing is such a powerful cult tool. It has been drilled in the heads of members that the world is a dark and scary place and one will never be successful upon leaving. I was personally told that the "world will eat me up and spit me back out" which has never happened btw. Also, due to the shunning that one experiences, they become traumatized and miss their family and so-called "friends" whom are actively avoiding them, so they come back to gain that association again. Also, as others have mentioned above, the organization is familiar, especially for those that were born in.
there were many addressed to me.
for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.
i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.
i'm a very positive person who always try to focus on the good side of things.. however, my fading is becoming increasingly painful and i'm starting being shunned by some i thought were friends.
i'm missing some meetings so the rumour is spreading to neighbouring congregations where i'm known that i'm not as spiritual as i used to be.
elders want to have a shepherding meeting with me.
This is a great topic. I personally was able to overcome feelings of lost time by just accepting the fact that I lost that time and trying to look at the positives, although there are hardly any. I do feel to an extent that being in the religion helped me overcome my fear of public speaking and also helped me curb my social anxiety that I had at the time which was able to help me deal with people better in the real world. This was done obviously by public speaking and field service. Also, since I was raised around the "troof", If I had never been involved, I would have always wondered if it was indeed the truth. Since I was able to see for myself that it wasn't, I was able to move on knowing TTATT. I feel like any experience we have in life will shape us into who we are today, so that's how I try to look at it.