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  Public opinion on the issue of Iraq???

  by Celtic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when prime minister tony blair was 'summoned' to camp david a couple of day's ago, he looked succinctly uncomfortable when doing a press interview with president bush.

  today, the prime minister faces the tuc conference, the main agenda covering the impending war on iraq.

  british public opinion is very much for the action to not take place against iraq.

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  seawolf

  Pathofhorns,

  I agree 100%
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  Brother requesting copyrighted material

  by Elsewhere in

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  i have copies of some of the wts's publications in pdf format... the other day my brother emailed be requesting a copy of the new tms guide book for 2002.. now, didn't they just have a km article about not making illegal copies of the publications?

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  seawolf

  he probably has a 1337 w4r3z 53r\/er \/\/17h 411 7h3 l47357 4ppz
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  ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  one thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.

  in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?

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  Well, after a few "fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice, shame on me" sort of things, we finally had a "hire no witness" policy. Every non-witness company/person that we hired worked out fine and did excellent work! every one! Every witness we hired did nothing but shoddy, crappy work or ripped us off for a lot of money and wouldn't stand behind their work. Even a witness friend of ours told us that her father (an elder) wouldn't hire a witness because they were dishonest. It's kinda sad.

  I'm not sure this is just around where I live or if it's this bad everywhere.

  There is one person from the hall that I'd hire to do computer work for me if I ever needed it. I trust him. But since I know how to do all the computer stuff I need, I've never had a need to have him work for me.
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  What happens when China rules the world?

  by sleepy in

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  all this talk of war with saddam and the power of america and europe etc,has got me thinking.i read resently that is is predicted that china will be the worlds biggest economy by 2040.with the size of china this is almost certain to happen if not sooner.how will this change the world i wonder, and it certainly will.will they be the one to call the shots against who they think is a threat to them in the future?edited by - sleepy on 8 september 2002 15:7:36.

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  seawolf

  Don't worry... Jehovah will intervene before that would happen

  hehe
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  Last thought on Iraq

  by freedom96 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there seems to be a lot of discussion these days about iraq, even on this site, which i think can be handled in one easy illustration.. if your family was mugged, and the mugger without question is going to shoot and kill them, but you have the opportunity to shoot and kill the mugger first, would you not do it?

  no time to discuss the consequences with the mugger, cannot discuss with said mugger on how he would "feel" if you shot him, no time for anything.

  if you do not react, he will kill your family without question, without hesitation.

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  To go with refiners fire image about needing a reason:

  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12148547&method=full&siteid=50143

  THE Blair government was told in January by the Americans that there was no justification for attacking Iraq in the "war on terrorism" and that their main aim was getting rid of Saddam Hussein who stood in the way of the West's control of Middle Eastern oil wealth.
  
  This partly explains why Blair abandoned presenting to Parliament a famous "dossier" in which "the evidence of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction is simply vast".
  
  The dossier is no more than a stream of warmed-over assertions and deceptions, supplied by Washington. According to reliable intelligence sources in another Western country, who were privy to the same communications, the Central Intelligence Agency has made clear that there is "no credible evidence" justifying an attack in Iraq.

  On July 23rd, the head of the UN weapons inspector program, and also the man that led the Iraqi weapons inspection program said this:
  

  "There is no case for war. I say that, not as a pacifist, or someone who is afraid of war. I've been to war with the US Marine Corps. Moreover, I'm a card-carrying Republican, who voted for George W. Bush for president. More important, I believe in truth.
  
  "The UN weapons inspectors enjoyed tremendous success in Iraq. By the end of our job, we ascertained a 90-95 per cent level of disarmament. Not because we took at face value what the Iraqis said. We went to Europe and scoured the countries that sold technology to Iraq until we found the company that had an invoice signed by an Iraqi official. We cross-checked every piece of equipment with serial numbers. That's why I can say that Iraq was 90-95 per cent disarmed. We confirmed that 96 per cent of Iraq's 98 missiles were destroyed.
  
  "As for chemical weapons, even if Iraq had succeeded in hiding stocks of sarin and tabun nerve agents, these chemicals have a shelf life of five years; after that they deteriorate and become useless gunk."

  In terms of the UN inspectors being pulled out and Iraq's nuclear program:

  Blair must also be aware of the fact that the international Atomic Energy Agency reported that it had eliminated Iraq's nuclear weapons programme "efficiently and effectively". When he and Bush "demand" the return of the UN inspectors to Iraq, what they they omit to say is that the inspectors were never thrown out by Iraq, but ordered out by the UN after it was discovered they were being used as a cover for American spying.

  THE unmentionable truth is that the entire Gulf and Middle East is being turned upside down, not by any perceived threat from Iraq, but by American obsessions with replacing Saddam Hussein.

  The other Arab countries don't seem to fear him anymore:

  The second biggest lie is Iraq's "threat to the region". Blair and Bush repeatedly claim this as if they are echoing the fears of regional leaders. The opposite is true.
  
  In March, the Beirut summit of the Arab League sent a clear message that all 22 governments wanted to see an end to the conflict with Iraq, which they no longer regarded as a threat. Saudi Arabia and Iraq have since re-opened their common border. Iraq has agreed to return Kuwait's national archives and to discuss the issue of missing people. Syria and Lebanon have re-established full relations with Iraq. Jordan's national airline flies five times a week between Amman and Baghdad."

  A lot of what is out there in American television is propoganda. The same thing with the Gulf War in 1991. I remember being really mad and upset about the stories about the Iraqis taking the babies out of the incubators and leaving them to die! Well, The American PR firm Hill and Knowlton was hired by the Kuwaiti government for $10.7 million to try and win American support for the war. That story about the Kuwaiti babies being taken out of the incubators and left to die was pushed by them. They've been hired again now I recall reading.

  Too bad it never happened. The babies in the incubator story is a classic example of how easy it is for the public and legislators to be mislead during moments of high tension. It's also a vivid example of how the media can be manipulated if we do not keep our guards up.

  from here: http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html

  What on tv is true and what isn't? Who knows.
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  Last thought on Iraq

  by freedom96 in

  1. jw
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  there seems to be a lot of discussion these days about iraq, even on this site, which i think can be handled in one easy illustration.. if your family was mugged, and the mugger without question is going to shoot and kill them, but you have the opportunity to shoot and kill the mugger first, would you not do it?

  no time to discuss the consequences with the mugger, cannot discuss with said mugger on how he would "feel" if you shot him, no time for anything.

  if you do not react, he will kill your family without question, without hesitation.

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  George Bush sucks. He's tryna squeeze Sept. 11 for eveything he possibly can.

  ya think ?

  

  Edit. whoops I just wanted the link there and not the picture.

  Edit2: I'm not 1337 enough I guess.

  Edited by - seawolf on 7 September 2002 17:51:22

  Edited by - seawolf on 7 September 2002 17:52:36
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
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  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  seawolf

  Maybe you should read about the Rape of Nanking before you start preaching about how bad it was for us to want to go to war.............

  no argument there.
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  Its Time to get IRAQ

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had the usa known in advance that the wtc was going to be attacked, we could and should have taken preemptive action.

  there was some 'fuzzy' knowledge that this might happen, but not enough to know the day or hour.

  yet, we still could have should have done more to prepare.. we could wait until saddam hussein completes his weapons program, and then nukes a few cities to decide we have enough evidence on hand to go after him.

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  seawolf

  Japan was actually lured into attacking the United States. Roosevelt knew that there wasn't support for getting the United States into WWII so Lieutenant Commander Arthur McCollum drew up an 8-step plan to get Japan to attack the United States. Here are scans of the memo that was declassified in 1994:

  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/McCollum/index.html

  pay particular attention to page 4. There, labed A through H are the 8-steps that provoked Japan into attacking the US. That's the reason when the navy people in Hawaii found out they were coming that nothing was done. Also, that's why no aircraft carriers were there when Japan attacked. What was there was enough to give Japan something to shoot at but not deal a KO punch to the United States.

  Also, there is a book for sale at Amazon.com that goes into all of this:

  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743201299/ref%3Dase%5Fantiwarbookstore/104-6856444-3755945

  More info is on this here:
  http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/jul/10/nyquist.htm

  Also, there is an article at Pravda (the Russian newspaper):

  http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/09/25/16158.html

  Edit: I've never read his book nor do I agree with 100% of everything I've read about this topic. I just thought I'd mention this subject and you all can come to your own conclusions.

  Edited by - seawolf on 6 September 2002 14:36:57
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  Jehover And Information Technology

  by SYN in

  1. watchtower
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  or, how i learnt to love tha bomb.. this is a collation of some thoughts that have occurred of late to yours truly about the nature of it and how it relates to jehover, as they apparently call him in the southern united states, a mystical land of clam chowder (whatever that is, it sounds nice!

  ) and festivals where women bare their breasts repeatedly.

  the previous is actually a major motivation of mine for immigrating to the us, by the by.

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  seawolf

  I 4M O\/\/N1|\|G JOO 4ZZ, H03, FUC|<1|\|G C4|\/|P3R

  LOL!!!
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  What org rules were stupid to you?

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

  1. jw
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  when i was in the truth i thought that the most ludicrous and petty ruling they ever introduced and still practiced is that congregation book study conductors were and are responsible for collecting every group members report.

  surely every member ought to be responsible for his/her own actions.

  at the beginning of the following month and certainly before the 5th i would always receive the stupid telephone call from the secretary are you aware that 3 publishers havent reported?

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  no "R" rated movies. yet, people in other countries would go and see them and it was ok. what's up with that? not to mention the fact that if they made movies based on stuff in the bible and made them realistic and followed the bible to the T umm anyone wanna bet that a lot of that bible crap would be lucky to even get an R? an X is more like it.