WTWizard,
What you propose is much more likely that the god/new system scenario.
Well said.
facebook's all you ever wanted to know about the bountiful blessings awaiting faithful ones in jah's new order!
check out these comparisons with satan's filthy world ..... the new system verses what saten 's system has to offer:.
saten's system: unequilty, there are thousands of imigrants, but its not their fault, the country does not supply food for them because they are using the money to fight their war's instead of bringing enough food into the country and supplying jobs for them.. .
WTWizard,
What you propose is much more likely that the god/new system scenario.
Well said.
facebook's all you ever wanted to know about the bountiful blessings awaiting faithful ones in jah's new order!
check out these comparisons with satan's filthy world ..... the new system verses what saten 's system has to offer:.
saten's system: unequilty, there are thousands of imigrants, but its not their fault, the country does not supply food for them because they are using the money to fight their war's instead of bringing enough food into the country and supplying jobs for them.. .
Don't be too hard on the person who wrote that.
After all, such dreams are all they have in their lives.
So sad.
i have seen a few from other countries but this one had me going huh!!!.
http://www.channel4.com/video/make-me-a-christian/catchup.html.
reverend george hargreaves and his team continue with the group of volunteers from leeds and teach them a more 'christian' way of life in the hope it can halt the country's moral decline.. it's a group of 4 church clergy, from different christian faiths getting together to teach a group of random non-christians about god, it's format is very much like one of these makover programs were you get a team of experts to makover someone or there house, .
It was rubbish.
The evangelist guy who was leading never, ever listened to why anyone could/would not believe what he was saying, his attitude all through was "you will believe this/do this because I say so".
No expalnations at all.
i read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/beliefs_and_practices_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses that witnesses... .
marking is practiced if a person's course of action is regarded as a violation of bible principles, reflecting badly on the congregation, but is not a disfellowshipping offense.
[104] the person is strongly counseled.
I read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beliefs_and_practices_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses that witnesses..
Marking is practiced if a person's course of action is regarded as a violation of Bible principles, reflecting badly on the congregation, but is not a disfellowshipping offense. [104] The person is strongly counseled. If, after repeated counsel sessions, the person still pursues the disturbing course, he might be 'marked', which involves an announcement stating that the actions in question are wrong, without naming the individual involved. Congregation members limit social contact with that person. The purpose of this is to is to shame the person into correcting his actions. [105] They do not completely shun the 'marked' individual, but are instructed to “continue admonishing him as a brother.” [106]
It clearly states,
the person still pursues the disturbing course, he might be 'marked', which involves an announcement stating that the actions in question are wrong, without naming the individual involved.
and then goes on to state,
They do not completely shun the 'marked' individual, but are instructed to “continue admonishing him as a brother.”
So, if the marked individual is not named, how do the rest of the congregation know who to “continue admonishing him as a brother.”?
say an alien world contacted us and discovered earth was populated with theists and they were shocked and suprised people of another world would believe in a god...would we be suprised shocked or just shaken to our core...could there possibly be a universe with out god...
COULD there possibly be a world with out a GOD...
There already is one..............this one.
When mankind grows up we will acheive the utopia of a world without the belief in a god.
over the years i have posted many times, in many places that i was convinced there is an element working for the gb to chase posters away from ex jw sites by making life uncomfortable for them, even to get sites themselves to close down.. having seen many posters leave various sites, most of the sites give up and close down, it seems they are winning.. now this one, the premier site, is closing.. .
so sad..
The way I look at is that JWD has helped to train soldiers in an information war. Now, the soldiers are breaking up camp and ready to invade. While it may be a little difficult for JWDers until the dust settles, the society is going to have to face an army of people who are now well educated to the evil ways of the cult. And those well educated people are going to be all over the Internet instead of clustered in one spot.
Most certainly correct, however, JWD has been an important site for years, helping doubters and newly exited persons to learn to cope in the real world, showing them they are not alone.
One of the WT's most potent weapons for keeping the R&F in line is fear of losing everyone they know, JWD has ben a bastion to give exiting ones hope.
As what-a-coincidence correctly wrote:-
Forums as these are stepping stones into the 'real world' ... out of the Watchtower Matrix ... these sites aren't meant to be an aspect of your life forever
The support structure is everything to exiting JW's, as can be seen from even a cursory glance through the threads on this board.
in genesis 3:7 we are told that adam and eve made the first clothing out of plant material.. (though the scriptures say fig leaves, it could have been similar to grass skirts, and adequate).
why did "god" find it necessary to kill an animal to clothe them?
(genesis 3:21 (septaugint) says "leather tunics").
Does it make sense that god would be the first murderer?
Given the nature of the god of the bible, yes, it makes sense.
over the years i have posted many times, in many places that i was convinced there is an element working for the gb to chase posters away from ex jw sites by making life uncomfortable for them, even to get sites themselves to close down.. having seen many posters leave various sites, most of the sites give up and close down, it seems they are winning.. now this one, the premier site, is closing.. .
so sad..
By winning I simply meant 'where else will we go?'.
The support structure for ex JW's is being attacked.
over the years i have posted many times, in many places that i was convinced there is an element working for the gb to chase posters away from ex jw sites by making life uncomfortable for them, even to get sites themselves to close down.. having seen many posters leave various sites, most of the sites give up and close down, it seems they are winning.. now this one, the premier site, is closing.. .
so sad..
Over the years I have posted many times, in many places that I was convinced there is an element working for the GB to chase posters away from ex JW sites by making life uncomfortable for them, even to get sites themselves to close down.
Having seen many posters leave various sites, most of the sites give up and close down, it seems they are winning.
Now this one, the premier site, is closing.
So sad.
ok heres the thing.
my english neighbor (arrived here from essex, is there really such a place?
) always makes those comments about our kids, our car, and so on even made fun out of me when i told him we used to be witnesses.
Always makes those comments about our kids, our car, and so on even made fun out of me when I told him we used to be witnesses. And when I ask him what he means he goes “nothing just a friendly observation” It is always a friendly observation and it is driving me crazy.
and then they unwind about their problem of how hard it is to find good friends these days,
Not surprising they can't find friends, I would point that out.