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  Are the teachings of JW—consistent?

  by Fisherman in

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  i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

  —unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.

  i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.

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  waton

  inconsistency that "fisherman" will ignore:

  wt Superior Authority doctrine: up to the 1920s : like the churches, wt agrees, The S.A.s are the"worldly" governments, then

  in the 1930s, 40, 50, The governments are removed from the scene, and Romans 13 applies exclusively to the superior and supreme authorities: The Father and the Son only . then,

  in the early 1960s wt, (through questions from readers column) reverted back to true, old "babylon the great" light:

  the Superior Authorities are the governments.

  Fishermen are consistently working in killing fish, even if they are held temporarily in aquariums.
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  Are the teachings of JW—consistent?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

  —unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.

  i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.

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  waton

  "fisherman" is conning everyone to empty their magazine, give it their best shot, and then, unconcerned and unread, will respond with their dump.
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  Are the teachings of JW—consistent?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

  —unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.

  i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.

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  waton

  Since 1918 wt has consistently preached that "millions now living will never die" , now at the 8 million mark. but it is a creeping false prophecy, for there were never >2 million qualified Armageddon survivors in much of the past.

  The new prophecy, that the anointed generation will rise to heaven at the outset of the Great Tribulation is inconsistent with the wording in mat. 24. The generation will pass after all is said and done.
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  Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

  by nowwhat? in

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  so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

  he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

  their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

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  waton

  Where is this? what happened to "the father of the bride"?
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
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  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  waton

  'expecting the right thing at the wrong time' or vice-versa.

  wt writers are still at that. Now predicting that the generation (anointed) will pass (to heaven) at the outset of the Great Tribulation, while scriptures has it, that the generation (un-overlapped) will pass after all that has occurred.
  The new 1914? 2075.
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  Here Be Dragons

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxep17qfrmo .

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  waton

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lmAc3LKWM

  There is something unexplained how a 10 meter wingspan muscle powered animal, the pterosaur could fly. in air.

  intelligent design driven by experimentation, naturally.
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

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  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  waton

  miracle wheat. resurrected patriarchs
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  waton

  what was taught in 1919 and what is taught now there is a vast difference.

  nswtg: not so much, , wt still teaches: " [8] millions now living (that means you) will never die" they dropped the " the world has ended" . because, as Carl Sagan said about them: "The world ended, but nobody noticed."
  
  
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  waton

  ex ile? drawn out straw men, snow men arguments, lacking juicy relevance, lifeless, not nourishing. not food in due season, not seasoned with salt. trying to divert attention form the possibly deadly food poisoning issue @ wtbts.
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  waton

  And what is really crazy is this:

  BruceX: You are wrong, it is not crazy, it is criminal, convicting (for all purposes executing her) on evidence that later is proved wrong in law.

  Question scripturally, to those perpetuating this, including the lower management aka elders:

  "How will you escape the judgement of gehennah?"

  F&DS my foot.