just because we are, through the scientific methods, ever better to find out how nature/existence works does not mean it is not work in the first place. wirklich
Posts by waton
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141My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang
by Sea Breeze ina new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.
wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.
that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.
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My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang
by Sea Breeze ina new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.
wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.
that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.
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waton
There really was nothing at some point. Fm,
disagree here. there always was uncreated energy and eternal time to contain it. timespace instead of spacetime.
The universe is still expanding into the future timespace .
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Is the FACT that no God/god ever communicates with humans evidence that no God/god exists?
by Disillusioned JW inis the fact that no god/god ever communicates with us evidence that no god/god exists?
i think it is very strong evidence that no personal god/god exits, especially a benevolent god who wants humans to know him him/her/it, to obey him/her/it, and/or to love him/her/it.
since no god/god communicates to us (including those who sincerely want communication with the/a god/god), wouldn't it be sensible for those who pray to what they believe is the/a god/god to cease all efforts to communicate to a god/god?
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waton
Energy can bring matter into existence and such happens. DJW
IT DOES NOT JUST HAPPEN, THESE GREAT CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN IN INGENIOUSLY CONCEIVED SET UPS.
WHAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE THE ENERGY TO MATTER EVENT, THE BIG BEGINNANG WAS DIFFERENT?
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Elders won't tell you who have falsely accused you
by enoughisenough inhaving been a victim of this practice twice, i thought i would see if others had the same experience.
on one occassion, i was before the elders being told i was drunk on a certain day at a certain time.
( this was only brought up because when i was pushing for a meeting because of elder mr x adultery , i was threatened somethings would be brought out about me if i persued the meeting.
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waton
here is a true story. a couple was to be married in the kh, after a super chaste courtship. He was a scripturally divorced man. They needed approval from his previous congregation. <24 hours through 12 time zones before the ceremony and banquet, there was a sudden delay. One of the elders in his previous congregation asserted that he had, more than a year ago, spend a night in a motel with his former wife and daughter.
The same "spirit appointed elder" had previously at a pre- judicial meeting asserted he had seen a culprit with a boy. (in public but potentially questionable circumstances.) The meeting was about involvement with a female.
In both cases, the accusations were dismissed just in time, the question came up though, if the subject did, or was in danger of committing an offence, why did he not intervene, or scripturally question the culprit ASAP? why only bring up these false accusation at a point where timely refutation was nearly impossible?
wt appointee justice at it's finest.
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How far do we get away from 1914
by PimoElder inhow far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
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waton
EDIT:
The Generation That
have All Passed Away D.O.C.and is now in wt heaven, and should have as a priority to extricate wt from it's false prophecy course, like the above worldwide proclamation, --- do their "spirit directing".
New light, flicked since then, is of course, that the anointed generation is supposed to pass away before the Great Tribulation finale; which of course is wrong too, because Jesus said that the generation will pass away only after all has occurred.
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How can JW's have a CLUE what the New Covenant is about...
by BoogerMan in...when their "slave class" doesn't?.
it-1 p. 524 covenant - the covenant is forever in operation.... it-1 p. 524 covenant - the purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the “israel of god” are resurrected to immortality in the heavens.. the new covenant is forever in operation, but only until the "anointed" have popped their clogs, been raptured to heaven, and morphed into 144,000 melchizedek king-priests.
(just like christ!).
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waton
Math. 26: 27,28* sums it up nicely: "drink of it all of you, -- the blood of the covenant -- for forgiveness of sins.-- "
This is the new Covenant, for forgiveness of sins. (not the kingdom)
wt stages a yearly reverse ceremony. Nearly all are told not to drink, to abstain, only the anointed drink, but at the last supper the one anointed, Jesus abstained. (he needed no sins to be forgiven) yet all with an initial earthly hope partook.
The 12 tribes of the Israel of God include the tribe of Joseph. The one that told the majority what the true score is.
The one that they "disfellowshipped" , nearly killed. They will eat out of his hand again. wt take note, and refute. . just for fun:
in the spring of 2024, there will be the wt memorial on a Sunday, darkness in upstate NY on Monday.
** The math. is easily remembered: counting up Math. 26 ,27,28 and down John 6, 54
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Free Will - Does It or Does It Not Exist?
by truth_b_known inbeing born-in and raised as one of jehovah's witnesses i remember a common theme or phrases used by the watchtower in its theory of why things are the way they are -.
jehovah created humans.
jehovah created humans as free moral agents.
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waton
free will? yes, but only within the limits set by the conditions and natural laws.
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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 ini don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.
that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.
unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .
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waton
Vdh: It is amazing what Watchtower knows without a shred of biblical evidence.
or even secular evidence. These newly resurrected immortal guardians , seeing what went on among their future heavenly co-citizen, should have been appalled to see that these were in a worldwide campaign to proclaim falsely, that "-- millions now living would never die"
why did they not stop that devastating basis for false prophet judgement among the remnant of their fellow "anointed" ? if they were truly now alive and in action, watching in the spirit world over the "spirit directed" organisation? to assure that no contaminated spiritual food was spread by the soon to be appointed wt F&DS of 1919?
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Meet Olivia Newton-John's Grandfather, Max Born
by DNCall inolivia's maternal grandfather fled htiler's germany in 1933. he was one of the founders of quantum mechanics and a close friend of albert einstein.
it was max born who famously wrote: "the belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it, seems to me the deepest root of all that is evil in the world.
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waton
good thing that he got out of Breslau, that lost all its Jewish population in the holocaust, and that the communist empire in its expansionism west, - during the great ethnic cleansing- incorporated in its landmass. --They are still at it as we speak.
It is so great that he made it to Scotland to teach there!
Remember the millions that did not make it out in time, the lives and future talents (like his granddaughter and others) that were never allowed to exist.
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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 ini don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.
that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.
unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .
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waton
Because that ain’t wrong.
Fm, wrong, not only the date, time of year wrong but about what wt predicted,
was it not that the world would end? that the chosen would have breakfast/supper on a given date in heaven instead of in their building in Brooklyn, NY USA? and
How about the superior authorities? correcting the correction, embarrassing all the hapless preachers that "published" that for decades, making same fellow false prophets. (speaking for G.O.D.)
where was the spirit guidance there? weeding out those that would not follow instruction, even when they are wrong & illogical? ha ha
Imagine you being a faithful german christian about to be put to the guillotine for refusing military duty, but the authorities had shown you that your religion is wrong about even such clear scriptural instructions who they are. .