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  The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

  by Revealed in

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  simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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  so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

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  waton

  Revealed, welcome, you might be relieved to know, that many here are left cold by the proposition.

  subjects like that might be completely answered one day without any resorting to scripture.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

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  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast.

  What does that mean?

  Fm: Acts 1:6 puts it even more direct, " It is not given to you to understand times, appointed times, which the Father has put in his own Jurisdiction.

  Jesus must have meant bible research, interpretation, because the work of Newton, Kepler 400 years ago, allows us to predict Eclipses centuries in advance,***

  Gen 1;1 sets the tone. it is wrong, the Earth was not created in the beginning, but 10 billion years later. The socalled days, the 1000 years per day rule follows. The "begats" follow, making things more wrong at every step.

  which might be part of the cunning plan.

  Jhine , yeah, wt wants all to be little working robots, programmed to see life as an endless series of sprints, with target dates, special campaigns, message trumpets, ha ha.

  *** hope to see you all on 4, 8, 2024 @ 3pm 27 min 37 sec in really upstate NY. or sunnier location of your choice.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  old WTs which clearly state that 1975 was THE year .

  Jhine, When you see wt writers, F Franz in this case, searching for a possible confluence of all their speculations, You can see why they flew that 1975 kite, to see if it would bring the divine Lightning discharge, to use the Benjamin Franklin /Thor analogy.

  1975 was the limit of a natural 60 year generation, a kid turning grandmother, counting from 1914.
  1975 also fitted the outcome of their "begat" sequencing.

  Bringing the 2 wt mistakes together,

  wt now has the final generation as the anointed, dying before Armageddon. But jesus said that the generation would pass away after all has that endtime trouble has occurred.

  So who among Armageddon survivors will pass away? make that to be the rebels that die after the 1000 years, after the creative days have ended, die forever after the rest day has ended.

  make that "flying the kite" after 3075. (2 centenarian overlappers + 1000)

  Newton would have it in 3060 btw.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  have ended, The teaching that the Millennium will end with the closing of the 7th creative day has not been changed by the WT . “God’s rest day will continue until his purpose in connection with it has been fully realized at the end of Christ’s Thousand Year Reign.” WT July 15, 2011

  Fm, and that shows that wt writers are still totally wrong again, because after "the purpose is fully realized" the whole thing blows up again, because

  after the 1000 years, after the 7 creative days have ended. after the rest day has ended,

  in the following day, the camp of the holy ones is attacked from all sides.

  taking a rest, thinking it is all over, and waking up to a new nightmare

  to the tune the song : Monday, Monday.
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  Armageddon house?

  by exjwlemming in

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  the other night, my wife and i were driving through a upscale suburb with old, large, beautiful homes.

  there is one house that my never jw she really likes.

  as we drove by the house, i turned to her and said, "that's your armageddon house.

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  waton

  the nicest house, with jw neighbours for an eternity, would be torment, unless you are of the upper tormenter class.
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  A question I have had since I was in the cult

  by mickbobcat in

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  so anointed ones go to heaven and rule with christ.

  men and women on earth can be of the anointed.

  so does that mean woman are tranny's who are of the anointed?

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  waton

  not defiled themselves with women,

  J4R: Freddy Franz paid that price. Faith on the March.

  a further restriction is imposed by Rev 20, where to rule with Christ for a thousand years in heaven, you have to be killed with the axe, guillotine, or other hopefully sharp instrument.

  FF missed that boat, go pioneering in Afghanistan, or the Kingdom of SA.
  
  
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  wt literature showed that the Millennium would start circa 1975 but wt literature did not SAY that the “end” would come in 1975.

  Fm: It is understood, that The millenium is ushered in by Armageddon. The kingdom of 1914 might run concurrently with satan's exclusive hold on Earth, and the last generation, but surely not post Armageddon.

  You say beginning of the 1000 year reich and you say Arma-geddon

  7th creative day with the Millennium is 7000 years long although it is still very logical to believe it is even though the other creative days may be billions.

  wt now teaches that the creative days only apply to, describe the local conditions as seen from the Earth's surface, not the actual creation of photons, the sun or the moon.
  
  
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  1975, we got played, scammed, exploited and manipulated by the GB leaders of the WTS.

  J4R, IN THE MEANTIME AFTER 1969, WT INC KEPT BUYING PROPERTIES IN BROOKLYN AND WHO KNOWS ELSEWHERE. but so did I,

  because I could not believe in 1969 , when 1975 was studied in the book study, that Armageddon was 6+ years away, therefore , plenty of time to make a house pay over renting ha ha.was dragged into the real estate marked kicking and screaming. now creeming.
  
  
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  Jan, sorry to unintentionally have hijacked your thread, but wt printed 1975 in connection with the 1000 years. beginning, and Fm and I are quivelling about the end.

  Fisherman, . may be wt is thinking of the light at the end of the tunnel, I am thinking of the 25 foot mark at the end of a measuring tape.

  just a quirky expression of one of their past writers that they dare not abandon. They have to tread carefully, they never know what can of worms the ramifications in their story will lead to.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  Need to look at the base text

  Fm: The base text mentions that the nations are already in the 4 corners of the Earth "whenever" (interlinear) "otav" the 1000 years are ended, and "satan" is released. so,

  come 3075 + hat makes it either a square disk or a 3 sided pyramid. where the perfect nations will be after a millenium under wt control.

  Wt writer's careful wording is usually not a question of the base text, but their hidden agenda.