Posts by waton

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SEX BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS NOT WRONG

by JohnTron72 in

i replied to a lesbian on the quora website who tried to state that god destroyed sodom because of the violent rape the people were trying to commit, not because they were homosexuals.

her argument perperuated so often was that it stated nothing about sex between "two consenting adults".

but, instead of using the bible scriptures such as a man shall not lay down with another as a woman, i used something else you never hear anyone use.... i told her to look to genesis 6:1-4 .

waton

Why didn`t they take on the female form as well as the male form ,then their offspring would have been super heroes..... or not..

S3: in the story, it is assumed that sexual pleasure is more intense, guaranteed for the male, not always for the female. So the angels went for the orgasm.

It is telling, that the fallen angels did not fall for boys. although guarantee is there too, I assume. ask a priest.

The pre-deluge heavenly pregnancies were not the last ones, of course, later without intercourse even.

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SEX BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS NOT WRONG

by JohnTron72 in

i replied to a lesbian on the quora website who tried to state that god destroyed sodom because of the violent rape the people were trying to commit, not because they were homosexuals.

her argument perperuated so often was that it stated nothing about sex between "two consenting adults".

but, instead of using the bible scriptures such as a man shall not lay down with another as a woman, i used something else you never hear anyone use.... i told her to look to genesis 6:1-4 .

waton

should have been able to prevent “Satan” from acting by reading his heart and instantaneously vaporizing him, thereby preventing the whole issue…. 🤔

DD: wt's reposte to that is: " it is not a contest as to who is more powerful. ---"

since homosexuality has emerged as a sin as you say, or as one of the current end products of evolution, where does that leave us, how to defend our family values?

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SEX BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS NOT WRONG

by JohnTron72 in

i replied to a lesbian on the quora website who tried to state that god destroyed sodom because of the violent rape the people were trying to commit, not because they were homosexuals.

her argument perperuated so often was that it stated nothing about sex between "two consenting adults".

but, instead of using the bible scriptures such as a man shall not lay down with another as a woman, i used something else you never hear anyone use.... i told her to look to genesis 6:1-4 .

waton

the question is, what evolutionary advantage would homosexuality impart on the individual the fittest to procreate, or more interestingly to humanity, as a whole?

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1995 generation change

by Gorb in

jw
friends

now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

waton

Obviously, the millions that died of old age and other causes believing they would live into the Millennium were not part of the GC to begin with since being part of the GC described in Revelation means surviving into the new order. — So if you make it into the Millennium a person is of the GC if the JW dies beforehand, he is OS.

Fm: just bumping this up, because in today's wt study #30, "Place in J's family",

wt makes the deliberate mistake again to call today's jws "The great Crowd", when the real thing might be, according to the overlap timing, not be known for over 50 years, After the GT, in 2075. and

wt is still sticking to the 7000 year rest day, by twisting the scriptures to imply the final test is "at the end" within the millenium instead of "after the 1000 years are ended" just a few verses on,

revelation has harsh words for practitioners of such tactics.

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Annual Meeting

by sove in

jw
friends

is it the annual meeting this weekend?

any insights on "new light" or new releases?.

waton

I doubt there was a chairman at Pentecost 33 CE. But I bet their was a chairman for this one.

AM, you would be surprised there were actually two. the texts read that the 'first voice' switched between Peter and someone else (dont remember the details) it was used by wt inc to introduce the rotating elder arrangement in the early 1970ies.

A surprising arrangement with many benefits for the congregations. The narcissists hated it. soon it was back to the "gifts of god to men" bullies at the top. after 1975, downhill it went.

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GENDER PRONOUNS

by JohnTron72 in

just to put it out there, the whole gender pronouns idea being pushed by the lgbtq+ minorities is just a way to try to hide the sin of homosexuality.

if you can void people talking about your true sexual identity then it seems there is no sin anymore if two they or them of the same sex are together.

example of the coverup: ("i don't identify as either gender"), so the kids i'm raising in a lesbian relationship need not speak of me as a mom or any other female term and we all don't have to feel any stigma attached to the true terms so, any shame we might feel is hidden anyway.

waton

The german it. "das" would be fitting for the in betweens, but the french are adamant it is either a he or she.

"le" or o- la la. the french and germans can not even agree on the gender of the moon and sun.

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The God of The Bible a Divisive God

by smiddy3 in

surely god could have had a better plan for directing humans than what is outlined in the bible couldn`t he ?.

right from the start he picks favorites ,not giving cain or abel any clues or directions in how he wanted to be worshiped .. maybe its just me but i would have thought cain`s sacrifice would have been much better than abel`s simply because cains offering was from the" fruits from the ground" but abel`s offering was to sacrifice" some firstling`s of his flock" oh, and lets not forge" their fatty pieces".

cain offered up the product of the land ,being a cultivator of the land ,while abel was a herder of the sheep and slaughtered one of gods creations.

waton

but Abel`s offering was to sacrifice" some firstling`s of his flock" oh, and lets not forge" their fatty pieces". ?

s3: The deity wanted to reward clear thinking. The fatty pieces are a better fuel for burning, and fat is not good nutrition. main reason for insight was, that all these people, even animals were total vegetarians. until the deluge. What was Abel going to do with all the carrion, the meat, after milk and wool, leather was used? even the dogs would not eat meat; so: what a smart move to incinerate it. (good fertilizer too).

the bible is a book of magic, talking snakes, animals created after humans, sun standing still (actually does, the earth is turning)

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Where does the cult fall on sexually touching each other for married couples.

by mickbobcat in

so its wrong for married couples to have oral sex and anal but what about touches to arouse?

to climax i would assume it was wrong.

but what if you go too far getting ready for sex and climax, do you need to go to the cult to confess..

waton

I seem to remember someone trying to get there df reversed because of it.\

funny, I remember being the wt conductor in a foreign language congregation, with magazines that were months behind in translation.

there was this new darkness on forbidden practises, even for married couples. After the session disturbed couples approached me to get clarification, in a language famous for its "savoir vivre" in matters erotique, me being totally innocent in that area of their world. but

relief: the society in short order had changed their mind on bedroom acrobatics again, we english knew, but the other translations had just not been sent out yet. whew.

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China About to Screw Your Life Again

by Simon in

china's economy is wobbling as one of its largest companies, evergrande, is teetering on bankruptcy.. there's a good chance it's collapse will have a knock-on effect on other markets.. so more to thank them for than just the covid virus.. no one should have any dealing with china..

waton

If you visit China and attend a trade show

fts, i used to exhibit at the hardware show in Chicago IL. The Chinese industries had a whole floor to themselves of any conceivable hardware product (25 years ago, when it was still in its infancy)

A component was made for us in a province of China, first unusable, , but at the end better than the US suppliers. the best, at a quarter the price.

China delivers value, if called upon. scary that they will crank out quality military hardware. en masse. with the manpower to man it.

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Mating inequality

by hoser in

this is the latest problem in north american society.

mating inequality.

there are now more women college graduates than men in the us.

waton

Everyone else's wants, needs and beliefs are taking precedence over that of the child who will be brought into the world . He/she will be born for the benefit/pleasure of someone else, rather than because someone wanted to generously and unselfishly give the gift of life to another human.

PZ: you are taking a very dim view of on of the most noble endeavour in developed life, not just humans.

take the emperor penguins , the males, who, standing in the cold antarctic night for months, huddled together, incubating the eggs, held against their breasts. all for the sake of the future generations.

Of course it is rewarding to see a our families prosper like that too, from courtship to being a grandmother/ father, but just because it has it's ajoy, it is really really hard, persistent work, and not done for y/our personal benefit, but that of others.

not least for l'etat, who will tax the offspring. and

ask the born and prospering child , would they rather have been aborted? never existed?