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  List of Critical WTS Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i sent a list of statements about current wts teachings to a friend who is being carefully recruited by a seasoned witness.. hi em..... just a quick summary of what all “good” jehovah's witnesses believe...even though some of these things witnesses are not always willing to be transparent about.

  this is your crash course.

  i have quotations for every item listed if you want or need them.. witnesses believes that:.

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  waton

  How do you become one of the 144,000?

  M: jws, wt is wrong on this. it is not eating, drinking at the memorial it. -- is to be a

  a) male virgin Rev 14 and to

  b) die by beheading, a martyr's death. Rev.20 still in vogue bsw.
  
  
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  Have You Been “Gaslit”?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  gaslighting is a form of sustained manipulation that causes the victim to question or doubt their sanity, judgment and memories.

  it’s a form of emotional abuse.

  i think jehovah’s witnesses have been gaslit.

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  waton

  minimus, the wt comment is old wt magazine paragraphs, but excellent material to teach your kids critical thinking

  how messed uo you would be if , reading between the lines. how messed up you would be if you took those wt "comments" at face value

  gas light instead of sunlight.
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  Have You Been “Gaslit”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gaslighting is a form of sustained manipulation that causes the victim to question or doubt their sanity, judgment and memories.

  it’s a form of emotional abuse.

  i think jehovah’s witnesses have been gaslit.

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  waton

  again in today's "text". May 20, wt is gaslighting the jws.

  they write, the pharisees did not like to be asked questions, as if they the wt leaders welcome them. and questions are asked to get an opinion has it occurred to them that people actually ask real questions to get at the truth? like the Bereans?

  start asking questions in the cong or write to warwick and see the pharisaic response.
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  Interesting Find with Chronology

  by Kelley959 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope this is in the right area.

  i've been studying the 2520 days/years 607/587/586 debacle.

  for a while now i have felt 1914 was wrong.

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  waton

  But if you are right, how come Jesus couldn't figure this out?

  V: because he said,: understanding of time and seasons are under the father's jurisdiction. He was careful too, never to put anything down in writing. we know of course he could at least read.

  Kelly 959: impressive, fine tuned numerology! really. . lining up different scales is bound to have some lines align.
  
  
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  $75 Million for Two Brothers! Wow!

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/18/us/north-carolina-wrongful-conviction-compensation/index.html .

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  waton

  waton - "It is expensive to fight crime..."

  I know, right?

  v: I was referring to the cost of actually prosecute, convict and punish a criminal, or protect society from their harm.

  In my neck of the woods, where "mounties are supposed to get their man", the person is usually "known to police" , not held in custody, released with a court date. Only serious injury, deaths are taken on by the government attorneys. IT IS a VERY EXPENSIVE process, taking years. and

  crime prevention was cops on the streets. It is now mostly a responsibility of the potential victims. Stores having their own security, and them often facing deadly force.

  It is actually war, and we tying our defenders hands demanding the high road all the time.

  The criminal element as a whole, , their families, estates, should pay the price for collateral damage as theses tragic two victims.

  Let us not forget that it was a despicable coward that did this unspeakable deed, and then hid his identity, and let these 2 innocents undergo the indignities for all these years. No punishment is great enough. imho.
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  144000 and the great multitude

  by cmaymann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hellow.

  i am studying some material about jehovah’s witness – and i wonder why they think, that the 144.000 from rev 7 should be in heaven, and the great multitude should be on earth.

  can anyone give me some argument for this opinion?.

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  waton

  alternative theory:

  a) the great Crowd are the 12 tribes out of which the 144 000 are sealed, the leftover.

  b) The new jerusalem. the 14000 stones with 12 pearly gates come down from heaven too.

  c) all the denouement of the talking snake story.
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  Have You Been “Gaslit”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gaslighting is a form of sustained manipulation that causes the victim to question or doubt their sanity, judgment and memories.

  it’s a form of emotional abuse.

  i think jehovah’s witnesses have been gaslit.

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  waton

  gaslighting int today's daily text . wt, who drummed 1914 into everybody's head, blamed "some brothers" that expected the world to end, go to heaven. in 1914. but:

  it is a laudable quality to kep slaving, because one day, the day jehovah will 'vindicate his sovereignty sanctify his name!'

  that was defiled by wt's false prophecies. bsw.
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  144000 and the great multitude

  by cmaymann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hellow.

  i am studying some material about jehovah’s witness – and i wonder why they think, that the 144.000 from rev 7 should be in heaven, and the great multitude should be on earth.

  can anyone give me some argument for this opinion?.

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  waton

  so it looks like the multitude stand in heaven

  cmm, good point, when wt writers formulated this slant, they wanted to differentiate themselves from the "snare & racket" religions. their argument?

  the earth is the footstool that stands before the throne I guess.

  The other point is of course, that the 12 tribes out of which the 144 000 come, are sealed out of, the 12 "earthly" tribes.

  as a side note, wt has admitted that the supposed "Great Crowd" does not exist yet, since Rev 7 says that it "comes out of" the "great Tribulation, now a future event, it had started in 1914 in past failed wt doctrine iterations.
  
  
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  $75 Million for Two Brothers! Wow!

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/18/us/north-carolina-wrongful-conviction-compensation/index.html .

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  waton

  "Where the carcass ($) lies the eagles gather." Z

  yeah, may the highly paid lawyers (who might have worked pro bono) have that monetary incentive to sniff out more innocents, and more importantly, help eliminate the real culprits from our midth.
  
  
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  144000 and the great multitude

  by cmaymann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hellow.

  i am studying some material about jehovah’s witness – and i wonder why they think, that the 144.000 from rev 7 should be in heaven, and the great multitude should be on earth.

  can anyone give me some argument for this opinion?.

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  waton

  wt's argument is, that Rev 14, (the other text mentioning the 144k is Rev 7), says, that they are the ones that "follow Jesus wherever he goes". he went to heaven, therefore, , so must they.

  by contrast the rest of the living do not go where Jesus went, so they must be on Earth.

  These earthly folks are the 12 tribes of the Israel of God. confusing? yes wt writers are confused. conveniently.

  7, 14, 14 4000, (12x12 000) , all very spiritual numbers in wt numerology, organisational perfection. in contrast,

  The great multitude (who no man can number), wt tries anyway reporting tabulating every detail.