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  Watchtower Changes Position On Sodomites

  by Sea Breeze in

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  why all the flipflops?.

  1886 sodomites resurrected = yes!“thus our lord teaches that the sodomites did not have a full opportunity; and he guarantees them such opportunity… it implies their awakening, their coming from the tomb.”—the divine plan of the ages, 1886, pp.

  110-111 (view pdf of these pages).

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  waton

  there will be no same sax marriages in the resurrection. no hetero either.
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  A Generation Change Again???

  by BereanThinker7 in

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  i have heard a few whispers that once again they are going to be changing the generation teaching.

  does anybody have on info on this?.

  i would love to be able to hit my family with a. .

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  waton

  The carrot looks too juicy to care about the fact that the stick dangling it keeps changing.

  Even to see the carrot you really need a telescope, it might be 54 light years away, @ 2075, the end of the lifespan of the last group of the overlapping generation.

  Just buying a better telescope will not help.
  
  
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  A Generation Change Again???

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard a few whispers that once again they are going to be changing the generation teaching.

  does anybody have on info on this?.

  i would love to be able to hit my family with a. .

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  waton

  If that happens , it will be a repeat of the of the "superior authorities" surprise

  All humans move through time together. To pick one stream, in wt's case "the anointed" does not change that fact.

  The authors of "Jesus'" biography set the time frame. The generation ends after all these things have occurred.

  The current "anointed" wt generation ends well before the final fun. Armageddon. it is too short, not to long.

  best bet, pick another stream, existing besides the annoying anointed, the old timers in general.

  the talking snake said a lie -- you will not die. no matter what generation you belong too.

  wt writers speculated before to make that generation Hiroshima's, or Gagatin's Glen's.
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  Evolution a proven fact? LOL

  by Rex B13 in

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  2. friends

  some interesting quotes from evolutionists.

  natural history, vol.

  ' new scientist, vol.

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  waton

  gravity is the action of matter on space that pulls in more matter, an organising force that gave us the sun. matter releasing energy, off which we live. Life is organising matter too, How it started doing that abiogenesis, is still being worked on , as is "gravity". but

  Just because we are finding out how things work, the laws, processes, does not mean it is not work in the first place.

  May be one day we too, will make airplanes, cars, that design themselves, build themselves, fuel themselves, repair themselves, recycle themselves.

  gravity came from matter, matter from energy. energy is uncreated, but has its evolution too.

  P.S. The unit for energy is J, by the way. remember the letter.
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  Jehovah`s Credentials Fail or Pass

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  judging by jehovah gods past dealings with the israelite / jews , i wonder why anybody can take seriously anything that he has promised for the future .. or is it what humans want to believe he has in store for them ?.

  during jehovah`s dealings with the israelites they had a leprosy colony in their midst .he didn`t do anything about that .. they had wars that he instigated and supported and people died on both sides of the wars.

  israelites as well as the enemy.. he accepted slavery ,did nothing about it .

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  waton

  yeah, we have to pry the answers out of nature by ourselves, by flying sky cranes to Mars for example.
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  Changes In Canada

  by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am surprised no one has mentioned what is going on in canada.. maybe they have but i missed it.

  so here are some of the facts as i know them.

  ontario only.. sault st. marie had their six congregations whittled down to two.

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  waton

  they've been shrinking them in Niagara too. multiple congregations are now sharing the same hall and just having meetings on different days.

  road to nowhere+:

  now, in different ways, zooming . No more driving for the 90+ olds at night. and,

  how about the ZOO in zooming? bigger elder bodies, the few biggest bullies grinning, and more long faces among the many.

  May be in Ingleside (dairy country) the cream rises to the top, but it is the frothy stuff, organisation men somewhere else.
  
  
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  The "faithful and discreet slave class" - Past, Present and Future

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  iv) believe that jesus christ is mediator for "the faithful and discreet slave".

  today, that "slave" is represented by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  5. elders.

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  waton

  Van der Hofen, thank you for that tabulation. These are the tip of the iceberg of the "anointed" generation of 1914

  "This" wt generation , when overlapping F. Franz , will not pass away, until the end occurs. That will only happen, when they appoint a new member that was born after 1972; seven years younger than Sanderson. of course.

  As David Splane said, some other anointed,( the submerged portion of the iceberg, the old slave class ) , might have some even older (and odd and stubborn characters ) than the nearly 100 year old Fred Franz among them,.

  so:, Not the above set of actors, but the next appointees might well be the ones that will take the overlap to 2075. As is already the case in the general overlapping population anyway.
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  The "faithful and discreet slave class" - Past, Present and Future

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  iv) believe that jesus christ is mediator for "the faithful and discreet slave".

  today, that "slave" is represented by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  5. elders.

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  waton

  V: behind every successful male stands a female, ( a pleasantly surprised one )

  Jesus: " whoever want to be first among you, must be YOUR slave. " did you know JWs are slaveholders?
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  The JW cult creates pessimistic personalities in all the PIMI congregants is my opinion

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am not saying all jw congregants are pessimistic, but i would go as far to say all pimi jw congregants are pessimistic.. why do i say this, my wife is my measuring stick.

  she has barely an optimistic bone in her being.

  she will only focus on the bad parts of anything.

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  waton

  it started at the doors for many, talking about the "problems in the world today" and then having to go d2d and talking about the new "problems in the world"
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  God defeats whole armies, but couldn't defeat '' the men in Iron chariots''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  judges 1. .

  new international version.

  israel fights the remaining canaanites.

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  waton

  If there is a creator, or user of eternal energy, the bible certainly paints a good caricature of him/her. and

  perhaps israel was still achin- from Achan heavy metal hidden somewhere/