The golden ratio, like Pi, is fundamental, it would be discerned even if there was no "nature", - anywhere in the cosmos, even outside the universe. It is beyond divine, it just is.
Posts by waton
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Views on the golden ratio??
by Freedom rocks inwhat are your views on the golden ratio or fibonacci sequence?
i know jws and some other groups use this as proof of gods existence.
i'm still looking into the debate but was wondering what others thought.
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Views on the golden ratio??
by Freedom rocks inwhat are your views on the golden ratio or fibonacci sequence?
i know jws and some other groups use this as proof of gods existence.
i'm still looking into the debate but was wondering what others thought.
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waton
what amazes me is whenever you fold a paper with length of sides in that ratio, the ratio always remains the same, whether there ever was a god or not. now:
km to miles too ~.
the ratio is fundamental, it is a construct of human math, but could not be otherwise.
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The great 1914 turn around
by Sour Grapes ini must say there is no other religion in modern times that has lied more to their cult followers than the watchtower company and no more brain dead, gullible cult members than the jdubs.. just three examples.
when russel was in charge 1914 was prophesied to be the end of the system of things with armageddon and the earthly paradise.
that didn't happen and poof now 1914 was not the end, oh no, it was the beginning of the end.. the second example, the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end came, which meant in all jdubs minds that paradise had to be here in the late 1990's.
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waton
Well, the generation did die and we now have the overlappers. SG
good reminder. We not only have anointed overlappers but Other Sheep overlappers too.
Good thing for wt. Sheep are good for fleecing, roasting. who cares wether they overlap. actually males better overlap the females, how can you have new generation food & clothing, golden fleeces?
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Water on Mars (Possibly life)
by pleaseresearch inthis has been an interesting story in the news recently.. just thinking, if in a few years time they drill down and discover water on mars and also some form of life.
does that for you destroy the bible in anyway?.
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waton
water everywhere, under the moon of Jupiter, Europa too, organic (Carbon) compounds on asteroids, meteorites.
Lucky for those pre - life conditions, they are not under Satan's control, who is confined to the Earth. I wonder how the Moon -walking astronauts felt with that freedom too? and why is Satan's control linked to the control by the Warwick 8?
"I tell you brother, You cant have one, cant have none, you cant have one without the other?"
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The Samuel Herd story may 8 wt mag
by waton ini talked to this simple man once in florida, where racial tension linger.
i can see why a sympathetic worker with a proven record as pioneer would end up in the top ranks, the hope being, that his effectiveness would rub off on the enterprise.
it shows that whoever runs wt does not count on the governing body to really run the enterprise.
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waton
GB was taken by surprise and utter shame when Kofi Atta Annan [from the Black Community] was elected as the seventh Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1996.
You might be right, wt might have been reacting to the UN precedent. and: In your opinion there might have been more worthy candidates in the Black JW community than S. H.
My observation was, that rather being a charismatic big shot, exuding confidence, domination, even in the Army, he came across as the benign influence, that what wt thought he would bring through his presence,
He is not a governor in the governing body. Others are, because wt clearly is governed. IMHO.
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The Samuel Herd story may 8 wt mag
by waton ini talked to this simple man once in florida, where racial tension linger.
i can see why a sympathetic worker with a proven record as pioneer would end up in the top ranks, the hope being, that his effectiveness would rub off on the enterprise.
it shows that whoever runs wt does not count on the governing body to really run the enterprise.
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waton
I talked to this simple man once in Florida, where racial tension linger. I can see why a sympathetic worker with a proven record as pioneer would end up in the top ranks, the hope being, that his effectiveness would rub off on the enterprise.
It shows that whoever runs wt does not count on the Governing Body to really run the enterprise.
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How does the "slave" turn 11 into 500?
by The Fall Guy inat matthew 28:16, the alleged "faithful slave" changes the number of people whom jesus invites, from 11 to over 500 - in order to "prove" that men, women, and children were commanded to preach.*.
3 - “jesus’ 11 faithful apostles...went to a mountain in galilee to meet the resurrected christ!....“upward of five hundred brothers” may have been present on that occasion.” (or may not!).
other disciples are there too, about 500 of them,.
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waton
When you picture the man (or already incarnate spirit) giving the command, it would be not be a yelling, but earnest insisting speech, only the closest would hear it, not 500 if they were present. It is said he appeared to 500 brothers, not that he had a "service meeting" Christian living portion with families gathering.
While we are in wt fantasy land: May be the 500 were the fellow revived ones that had come out of the graves and entered Jerusalem, now eager to learn what caused their unexpected new, temporary lease on life?
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Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents'
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhw9ui.
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waton
BBW, they’re going back down.
Yeah, intelligent ladies have fewer children, but they should, and the ones with the maximum brood are at the opposite end of the SAT test (if any). and then there are the screens, buttons stifling thought.
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Revised NWT in French released yesterday
by careful inhttps://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/revised-nwt-released-french/ .
it looks like it may only be available electronically, that is, no printed version(?)..
is the german next?.
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waton
This tower of Babel nightmare is still with the tower, and the GB knows it first hand.
There was an episode implicating David Splane, who was stuck in presenting a "drama" with the use of Quebecois actors and audience, but Parisian tapes.
The attempt to create locally flavoured audios was less than stellar.
Thankfully there is a solution for the Spanish arrivals in America, learn english too, , the language of the land.
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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's
by Bad_Wolf inone thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.
now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.
i was raised into it.
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waton
The idea of an endless life, however, was never a question, had appeal for me. it was just assurance that life period would be guaranteed by an armageddon ( destroying those that destroy the earth) event.
M.a.d. has assured that. so, we can do nothing about any miraculous , beyond our ken, future happenings. so I am happy, because I have valued, fulfilled my present life more, because I did not count on a future one, promised by wt or bible writers to happen.
The universe will move on into the future, thanks for the great ride!