my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
if any of you are in the Bay Area--prove kairos
you canthere look across ~ 60 miles of water, similar toward Chicago on Lake Michigan, the refraction alone stretch the image. the water has a clear curvature over that 60 miles. lots of good math on that.
The only thing you will prove that you are not doing your math.
ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.
just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.
zion's watchtower 1881, january.
according to wt that first resurrection started in 1918, and will be over not later than 2075. but before all these things occur.
problem a) The anointed are not supposed to die, and be resurrected before the end, even Armageddon, and the sheep and goats are judged.
problem b) 2 Tim 2:18, those that say the resurrection has already occurred have deviated from the truth.
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Did you know that moon shadow is warmer than moon light? kairos
Have not checked this, but: the moonshadow reflects earthshine, and the rays coming back from that are mostly in the infrared, warmer. Anyway if the moon is smaller, made from the same stuff outside has to be a ball because of gravity, how can the Earth, mostly water outside and bigger, not be drawn into a ball too? and:
why is the moonshadow terminator curved, and changing all the time? because it is a turning ball, just like the earth.
hi guys.
sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.
just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.
Did Abel offer lamb meat mutton, foreshadowing the the lamb of god?
where would he have put the meat of inedible the meat?
Is that how valuable your doctrine consider life?
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
All the ardeur here, to convince the flat earthers of their error, is just a standing in effort for what we wish we could do for the spiritual disc joke-ys, the JWs. living in their 2 D disk-o thek world. looking at charts, that are disproving their claims.
excellent refutations:
the lunar eclipses at night time, The low polaris as seen near the northern equator region. The jws videos even, the sun rising in what to us Northers looks like the west.
a fictional, composite tale of many true elements from a city called bostronno.
a young family man from a devout jw family was swept away in the late 60s by the enthusiasm to be in paradise by 1975. it all started at a book study with some very sincere and serious bible study members.
he turned his branch of the prosperous family business over to his brothers, and searched for a place to serve the rest of the old system's time out- in comfort and where the need was great.
so, what's the story? big deal?
crisis of conscience of a middle aged anointed that is the story, and wt's failed doctrines. their collapsing claim to fame.
The hero yearns back to his teen years, when young sisters moved up to him, struggles with those fading desires now, and
all these thousands of new partakers, are they replacements, if he falls? are thousands of anointed failing ? and
his concern for the Sheep, their judgement. His generation is supposed to be there when they are judged to enter everlasting life, as Jesus said. but he realises there is much wrong with wt's doctrine now. He, his generation is passing away at the beginning of the Great Tribulation,~ 2073, but Jesus said the generation would not.
perhaps it was, it is wrong, and is all for nothing?
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Actually, on a flat plane you cannot "see forever" but your horizon is the same as on a round earth of the size commonly put forward. Complete with increasing height making the horizon farther away. However, when you use high-zoom cameras in real life, it turns out
MrRoboto, the definition of the horizon is where light rays form a tangent (grasing)) the earth's surface before you seeing them. not how far you can see because of fog.
Using binoculars, you can actually see a ship's funnel appear, then rising , and then fully climb over that "hump" in the distant sea. see?
On a clear day , night really, we, (the Austr-aliens) can not quite see forever, but 2.5 million light years away, to Andromeda, by comparison, to the end of your flatland,s edge, it's horizon, , it's a mere 1/24 st of a second. With the right magnification you can see light from 13 billion light years away all directions even from the top and the bottom of your plate.
what a waste of time and talent for you to rise to the defense of the indefensible. remember what Jesus said about the wasted talents? the bible is a book written by flat earthers, this is not the place to defend that. but ,
iron sharpens iron, for what it's worth.
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
flat earth, view of a small world by small minds-- MrRoboto:
sorry if you took that personally, but a creature that thinks it can deduce the shape of the earth by looking horizontally at a small area probably is limited in size in every way. obviously does not fit your description.
But refute please the geometry of an increasing distance from horizon to horizon with increasing heights of observation, when on a flat earth that distance remains constant, because "on a clear day you can see forever". It was balls all the way back to the beginning (almost), when even the universe was a smaller 4D "globe"
Gravity would not permit a plane, or even a level spot of the sizeof our home,-- made mostly of molten, liquid , low tensile strength materials to persist. The visiting elongated asteroid Oumuamua might be the limit. but think Roche limit, shearing forces. ps.
shearing forces that must have occurred when the rotation of the earth was stopped in Joshua's day.or: Maybe it was easier to stop the tilting of the flat earth than the rotation of the globe? Miracles made easier?
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
you have the same effect with the horizon. In fact, almost all math works the same when you are just one observer on/near the surface. mrroboto
There are no tangents to a flat earth measurable fro above the surface. I have yet to see a ship coming over the horizon of my 30 mile horizon if it would be a flat disk, but:
yes, even the measurements of the globe's diameter made by the greeks,~ 200 BC, looking down into a well, measuring the length of a solar shadow variation, , could be made on a flat earth, but what would the results show?
flat earth, view of a small world by small minds
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Even Jesus was fooled by a flat earther who was "satan", by keeping up the pretense, that he had seen all the kingdoms of the earth within that small horizon.
In all places, specifically, one way or another , the horizon is much closer from the ground than from the 3rd floor, about 30 miles away, where the sun sets in June, and sometimes a cruise ship is still visible. simple math shows it is globular.
flat earthers snicker into their masks at any of us treating it as anything but the joke it is. Don't be the butt of the joke.
