Posts by waton

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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe everything will be Hunky Dory after Armageddon ? I have news for them.

by smiddy3 in

they seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.

{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.

} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..

waton

So there will be death in paradise? I thought there will be "no more death... for the former things have passed away" (Rev 21:4). Simple question. Wonder how a JW would answer that?

There are overlapping deaths. the 1st death is overlapped, swallowed be the second death.

the sinner will die young, even though perhaps 100[s] of years old. (Isaiah 65:20) so, sin will have no detrimental effect on the body? ha ha.

All those rebels after the perhaps even after 1100 years of life, and harbouring rebellious, potentially sinful thoughts will be perfect, young during the final attack.

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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe everything will be Hunky Dory after Armageddon ? I have news for them.

by smiddy3 in

they seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.

{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.

} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..

waton

encircled the camp {not a Nation but a camp} of the Holy ones.and the beloved city.

clearly there will be new light on this, holy ones are the partakers, supposed to be in heaven by then. The beloved city, New Jerusalem, or the one above? , having come down from heaven? Apostles and tribes of Israel written all over them?

Even if you are only bait, as the OS are supposed to be at Armageddon, it is no fun, better than the movies though.

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Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!

by darkspilver in

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friends

2017 grand totals.

branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .

number of lands reporting: 240. .

waton

Partakers are up again...but not to the degree in the last couple years

If the F&D Slave can be in the last days only, then the 144 000 can be in the last days, the " Lord's Day " since 1914 inclusively too, and overlapping to boot. wt has until 2075 to reach that partaker number. minus departed "anointed" of course.

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Do You Feels That Your Life Was Ruined Because of Ypur JW Experience?

by minimus in

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friends

i know that some are upset because of the time lost because of ever having been a witness.

have you moved on as an ex jw or are you stil devastated because of your past jw lige?.

waton

no, a plus for a flexible survivor. ("--hold on to what is fine.")

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Is this life all there is?

by Fisherman in

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friends

what do you sincerely think?

do you nurture any hope?.

waton

An "experience" might not be connected to another life at all. But if anybodt had one, as I did, it is sufficient in itself.

Is the present knowledge all there is to life? of course not. imagine all that had to happen to bring us to the "now", and what potentially will happen in the future to come! with or without us personally being there.I definitely do not recall having been present in the past.

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Millions Then Living Did Not Survive

by Fred Franztone in

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friends

it's almost 2018, almost 100 years since 'judge' rutherford confidently prophesied that 'millions now living will never die!'..

so how many of those millions are left?

well, since it was 100 years ago, all we need to do is find out how many people of age 100 and above are currently living.

waton

To think, that based on such proclamations, he, Rutherford and the rest of the then non-existing GB was selected and appointed in 1919 to be the once and only F&DS. now in the overlapping generation.

Appointment of a few resulting in disappointment for the many.

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Adam and the Dinosaurs

by The Real Edward Gentry in

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friends

here is a fascinating subject.

according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.

we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).

waton

no, English came from old French and German, originated in the confused Babel babblling. blabbering, the snake, Eve, and Adam must have spoken the earlier pure language, coming again in the new system.

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2018 RC ... and 2017 AGM

by neat blue dog in

on another post of mine someone replied with a twitter link showing these stills from the next movie to be shown at 2018's rc, about jonah.

not only is it very early for any leaks to be coming from the convention, but the images appear to be taken off of another screen, which leads me to believe someone behind the scenes leaked this against explicit directions.. also .

where's the agm video leak by now?

waton

Jonah's message was one of judgement. with even a time frame that failed. is wt preparing its slaves for that letdown, wilted flowers and all?

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Millions Then Living Did Not Survive

by Fred Franztone in

jw
friends

it's almost 2018, almost 100 years since 'judge' rutherford confidently prophesied that 'millions now living will never die!'..

so how many of those millions are left?

well, since it was 100 years ago, all we need to do is find out how many people of age 100 and above are currently living.

waton

To survive, never die, you have to be a baptized Watch Tower subscriber [to doctrine] in good standing or a toddler of one of them.

How many faithful centenarians are there among the ~8000k members? even the overlappers? dont forget, all members in 1918 were of the partaker class. How could they go to heaven but never die? The doctrine was not even wrong. like the anointed generation now.

The offshoot, The general generation of OS is overlapping too.

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Royal Australian Commission - Recomendations for Jehovahs Witnesses

by curiousconfused in

the report is finally out.......... ————————.

recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.

recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..

waton

recommendation for the Roman Catholics: scrap mandatory celibacy for priests, (to give them a sexual outlet) make confessional (The one witness rule) open to reporting. More severe imho, than witness directed changes sought.