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  Bible is good if we look for implied truth

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.

  but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.

  similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.

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  waton

  It is not that there is no absolute truth in the bible, with ~ 50 000 verses, just by trial and error there has to be some correct observations.
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  waton

  Sbf: I am a deist, and believe matter, energy and their structure and the laws they work with, were given at the moment of creation, in other words they are on auto pilot. To elevate that propensity of any entity to do the right thing does not require it to be "aware".

  You called it a "Philosophie " fine, let Sophia sing, but proposing it as a scientific theory is a different matter. making a prediction for example, at what point would aware matter like my rock collection feel and react to prodding?
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  question of the day if Jesus on earth today and assuming he was a jw

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  would he be disfelowshipped for talking to df persons?.

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  waton

  He would be surfing champion of the world, surfing on mini waves with his bare feet, or 1 ft boards. (normal size 5-10 feet). wavehights > 2 feet, spaced > seconds apart. not to be seen on small lakes)
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  waton

  just because some questions can be formulated and stacked in sequence does not bestow merit to most of them.
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  question of the day if Jesus on earth today and assuming he was a jw

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  would he be disfelowshipped for talking to df persons?.

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  waton

  He spoke to a woman at a well in a secluded area alone with no chaperone,

  a worldly lady, and then, abandoning his special pioneer partners, moved in with her (in-to her city) for 1 1/2 days, possibly 2 nights.

  and he was also a trained carpenter...Zep:

  now, the lowest paid of all the trades. moronic for a perfect human. strange, he never used one of the many situations in that skill in his teaching. Woodworking, powered only by arm & hand, it is agony not only long ago.
  
  
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  Bible is good if we look for implied truth

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.

  but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.

  similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.

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  waton

  lessons from Red Riding Hood : do not talk to the animals, same for the snake story.
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  question of the day if Jesus on earth today and assuming he was a jw

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  would he be disfelowshipped for talking to df persons?.

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  waton

  He would not be considered an example for the young brothers, hounded to be immersed at 9, because HE entered the service, delayed his dedication and baptism to his 30's year, although being able to call on all resources in the Universe, he gave only 10% of his life time.

  Wow! must have been good to be perfect and free! 90% of your time!
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  waton

  It would be very tempting to give matter the status of divinity, if one considers any created substance as the now un-dead trailings of a superior being.

  two magnets display an uncanny ability to attract or repell, even through some substances. They seem to be "aware" of each other. This goes down to the smallest fundamental particles. so,

  are inert, "noble" substances like Helium, Gold less conscious because they react with difficulty, but explosives more alert?

  Ascribing a quasi divinity to all matter might prompt us to deal with respect, gratitude even, with all we manipulate, -good-, but ascribing conscious too it all, would that not be the ultimate idolatry, misplaced reaction?

  "ascribing", because there is silch scientific experimental evident for it, to my knowledge.
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  November broadcast

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  anybody seen november 2017 broadcast ?

  i do not mean the hypocritical talks about accuracy, but the rather short talk at the end.

  the brother (sorry, forgot the name) addressed the issue of how apostates wrongly inform the media about the 2 witness rule.

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  waton

  It opens for the question too, why they do not allow an adversarial second witness to be present in pre-jc and jc meetings, and as a substitute insist in "no recordings" ?

  If child rapists hide behind the one witness barrier, what grievous stuff has wt to hide?
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  Deceptive comments or lies that you have heard from platform or brothers & sisters?

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so what are the most deceptive comments that you have heard from your experience in congregations?.

  my top three are;.

  1) service overseer during the ’ how did we do?’ annual talk, twisted the figures to such an extent that it looked like the congregations ministry was in tip-top shape.

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  waton

  Instructor in elder class: "Now, I am not a mechanic, but finding the motor in the trunk really surprised me therefore:--

  Just to clarify, This was a deceptive attempt to raise himself above the redneck- car loving males of the day, referring to the rear engined, Beetles, Corvairs, Porsches, Ralph Nader (unsafe at any speed) bru ha ha of the day. This set the tone for the course, to talk down to the dejected crowd be had put in it's place by these comments.