It is kind of a puzzle, only one of the 4 is real, but all have been mentioned by wt. I am ham fisted, but will try to re-post in a while. The line leads to 2075. try it, then read the quote.
Posts by waton
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8The 4 Bachelors in WT Mythology leading to 2075.
by waton init is kind of a puzzle, only one of the 4 is real, but all have been mentioned by wt.
i am ham fisted, but will try to re-post in a while.
the line leads to 2075. try it, then read the quote.
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1975... the year that keeps on giving.
by silentbuddha inso i recently moved back to my really really really small hometown in the south.
it was the place that my parents moved to from a major city up north in the early 1970's.
when we lived here times were very tough financially and i was always told that the reason we did not attend meetings was due to the fact that we had no car / no gas for the car / could not afford repairs for the years we were there.
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waton
Adam was still a bachelor at age 42 -and counting.
Fisherman: since you like numbers, Another bachelor, Fred .Franz (who gave us 1975), would live another 17 years after 1975, to 1992. An anointed born in 1975 , overlapping Franz by 17 years, and living to his age, would die in 2074, leaving a year to finish the dirty work of Armageddon in 2075.
Another bachelor, the king ruling since 1914, could then proceed with the wedding with his bride, the then complete "New Jerusalem".
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Confusion with 'Message of Judgement'
by Listener inthere has been some discussion regarding the change in the jws message so i thought i would have a listen to the recent annual meeting to try to get an idea as to why the jws are not clear on the matter, once again.
it's strange that the annual meeting hasn't been put on jw org tv to date.it looks like the confusion stems from a talk given by tight pants tony and i've written out a part of that talk.
his talk was titled 'making our blows count'.
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waton
Pre 1975 wt put a limit of 6 month on any bible studies. even dear old ladies serving tea to special pioneers for years, were to be dropped after the 6 month ultimatum.
Strange though, with wt expecting the six thousand years to end and paradise to begin,after Armageddon, they never had the guts to actually go into full "judgement message " mode, tracts and all.
Perhaps that is why Armageddon did not come. Wt not printing the right stuff, and UN not responding and attacking... ha ha. Tony came close to the 6 month limit again. nice try.
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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me
by Doug Mason inaccording to the watchtower:.
who received the ransom payment?.
why did the ransomer need to be paid?.
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waton
If the ransom would be for Adam, he would be a candidate for the resurrection, which wt denies
"To buy back that what Adam lost "--oops---, but not for himself, but for his off spring?
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backhanded compliment to Sunday speaker
by road to nowhere ina couple years ago we had a speaker, better than average, give the talk.
since i was still pretty much a believer, i commented to him how i enjoyed the talk, and how it was "entertaining".
it was, but he got mad as it was one of the beat the fear of god (governing body) into you talks.
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waton
i said once: that was a well rehearsed talk (CO), convincing delivery. he said "thank you" . i replied: "it is always good if such talent would be used in defense of the truth."
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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me
by Doug Mason inaccording to the watchtower:.
who received the ransom payment?.
why did the ransomer need to be paid?.
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waton
A stickler for protocol, some of the time. requires to have his son killed to satisfy the [later] law of eye for an eye, "unless blood is spilled.." but has no problems with all the laws of nature violated in all the "miracles of the bible stories. pile stories high of you know what.
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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me
by Doug Mason inaccording to the watchtower:.
who received the ransom payment?.
why did the ransomer need to be paid?.
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waton
you are going too fast. The ransom was "to undo the works of the devil", which started with the talking snake working in his behalf. no talking snake, no ransom required.
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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waton
perhaps the natural potential to combine to the next higher order is here re-labelled "consciousness?
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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waton
would a plasma constitute the melding of all the individual consciousnesses of all the included particles?
are we seeing the revival and justification of the pet rock phenomenon?
ps: just because the laws of creation/ nature allowed for the emergence of consciousness now, does not mean that it had to kick in right from the big bang on. imho
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Where to go for the 'Deep Things'?
by cobweb inas someone who has been out a while, i wondered what publications a jw would turn to now if they want to do serious bible research.
are there any meaty jw publications left?
i haven't heard of the insight books being revised.
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waton
There are no more deep things in the cart displays, jworg. but, even current wt teachings are deep, because they are full of pitfalls, wt bible contradictions.